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I don't personally think GNU/Linux is correct. I think that's a bastardization |
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of the name, and it's doing a disservice to everything GNU stood for. |
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It takes away from the efforts of those who've worked there, and |
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focuses everything on RMS's attempt to get recognition for GNU. |
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Note that he doesn't want you to change the name to Linux/GNU. He |
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wants top billing for GNU, he wants GNU/Linux, So why is GNU |
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more important than Linux? |
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So while we're at it, We then should be accurate and then call it |
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GNU/KDE/SUN/IBM/QT/Python/Drobbins/partsrippedfrombsd Gentoo Linux. |
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Seriously, take a look at how people look at GNU, It's a toolset, it's a |
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compiler, it's a source license, but since when did it become a religious |
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movement, that required people to change their very name, in order |
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to honor it? |
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Linux is an operating system, it is a collection of parts. GNU is just |
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one of the many parts, giving in to changing the name for GNU today |
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just means 3 months down the road, the next license that comes along |
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will want the same thing. There is a reason why RedHat, SuSE and |
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Mandrake basically ignored RMS, It makes NO sense to change |
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the name, If RMS wants credit, fine add information in the docs, about |
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how this was made possible by the efforts of the many fine coders at |
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the FSF and GNU Project. Placating RMS, slights the others who have |
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done just as much work, to make this distro what it is. Look at it from |
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a marketing perspective. It's suicide to take a marketable name, and |
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ruin it by adding GNU in front of it. Brand names are marketable because |
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they are unique. They are memorable, they have a image associated with |
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it. GNU/Linux, Just frankly is the worst marketing plan I've ever heard of. |
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You could sell hair dryers to 60 year old bald men easier than trying to |
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market ANYTHING called GNU/Gentoo Linux. In regards to Debian |
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using the GNU tag... Debian was probably hoping to get more publicity |
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from it, as they were in danger of well, ending up where they are... |
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I'd rather quit developing, than bow in to political pressure from RMS |
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or anyone else. If you resort to begging or coercing people to give you |
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credit, it creates resentment and bitterness. It's not credit. It's a bribe to |
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get you to leave them alone. |
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Kevyn |
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----- Original Message ----- |
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From: "Moritz Schulte" <moritz@×××××××××××××××.de> |
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To: "Thomas M. Beaudry" <k8la@×××××××××.com> |
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Cc: "Greg Corcoran" <gregc@××××××.com>; <gentoo-dev@g.o> |
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:49 AM |
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] License criteria for Gentoo |
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> "Thomas M. Beaudry" <k8la@×××××××××.com> writes: |
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> |
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> > Actually an argument for leaving the name as-is. Then you have |
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> > Gentoo Linux, Gentoo Hurd, etc. depending on the kernel that you are |
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> > booting. |
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> |
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> Well, no. "Gentoo Hurd" would not be correct - for the same reason |
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> "Gentoo Linux" is not considered correct. Either it should be "Gentoo |
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> GNU/Hurd" - or simply "Gentoo GNU" - since the Hurd is the official |
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> GNU core and therefore "the GNU system" implies "Hurd based". It's |
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> the same with Debian; we have Debian GNU/Linux and Debian GNU/Hurd. |
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> |
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> Btw: the Hurd is not a kernel (that's why I said "core", actually we |
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> don't have a single word to describe what the Hurd is). The Hurd |
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> consists entirely of user space components, which run on top of a |
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> Microkernel (Mach, at the moment, but the port to the |
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> second-generation microkernel L4 is underway) to provide the system |
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> services one would expect from a Unix like system (file systems, |
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> networking stacks, processes, user/group IDs, authentication, etc.). |
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> Thanks. |
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> moritz |
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