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On 03/03/10 20:17, Dale wrote: |
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> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: |
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>> I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is |
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>> |
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>>>>> to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don't |
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>>>>> think cups should be part of the base profile, and as a result |
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>>>>> cascading to the desktop profile. And a lot of people seem to |
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>>>>> agree. Users can always enable that functionality when they |
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>>>>> need it. It is not something that is necessary for running a |
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>>>>> desktop system. |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> Cheers, |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> |
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>>>> I agree that CUPS is not really necessary in the desktop profile, and |
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>>>> especially in the base profile. Many systems run desktop |
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>>>> environments without needing printing support. As we advance further |
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>>>> toward a paperless computing experience, the need for printing |
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>>>> support becomes even less. And, as it is incredibly simple to add |
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>>>> print capabilities by placing the cups USE flag in /etc/make.conf, |
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>>>> that choice should be left to the user. |
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>>>> |
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>>>> Regards, |
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>>>> Nathan Zachary |
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>>>> |
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>>> One could argue the opposite as well. Adding -cups to make.conf is |
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>>> just as easy. |
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>>> I'm one of those lowly users. |
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>>> |
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>>> Dale |
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>>> :-) :-) |
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>>> |
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>>> |
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>> I think that the point is that it is better to have it disabled by |
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>> default so that new users do not run into these circular dependencies |
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>> upon their first installation. They can then add cups to their |
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>> make.conf and emerge -avuDN world to get full printing support. |
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>> Just as a sidebar, there is not a "lowly user." Your input is greatly |
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>> important in all matters regarding Gentoo as you are a member of the |
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>> userbase. It's your operating system too! :) |
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>> Regards, |
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>> Nathan Zachary |
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> |
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> Let just think of it this way. I have to reinstall say from a dead |
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> hard drive. I have copies of my make.conf and world file. I install |
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> my new drive, download the tarball and unpack it. I copy over |
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> make.conf and world. Naturally cups will be enabled. Then I sync and |
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> start to update. Isn't that circular dependency still going to be |
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> there? After all, this is how I install Gentoo even if from scratch. |
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> I set my USE line before I start to emerge or update. |
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> It seems to me, in my situation, this would not solve much. Maybe I |
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> am incorrect in that. |
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> Dale |
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> :-) :-) |
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> |
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I believe the circular dependency is solved if one emerges gtk+ (and |
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possibly poppler?) without CUPS support, and then goes back and emerges |
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everything with CUPS. |
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Regards, |
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Nathan Zachary |