Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd

[Nick Devito]

Generating root filesystems for UML and Xen are basically the same
process. I've heard of domi, but, bleh, I never could get it to work. I
usually just make my images in chroot, and that usually works well. But,
since the images are *basically* the same, that means it would be
possible to use the jailtime images, unless you are running on a 64-bit
arch. Then, in that case, least with gentoo, running a 64-bit kernel and
32-bit userland doesn't work for long (first glibc (re)compile, and the
whole thing borks out).
On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 21:09 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 22:28 +0200, Benedikt Böhm wrote:
> > On Monday 03 July 2006 21:56, Nick Devito wrote:
> > > Okay, in that case, extend the vserver herd to include a larger range of
> > > virtualization stuff, including Xen, Bochs, and so on. It just seems
> > > more fitting to group those packages together.
> >
> > not really, bochs, qemu and vmware is emulation, merely used in virtualization
> > environments
> >
> > uml and xen do run with VMMs and don't share anything with
> > OpenVZ/Linux-VServer
> >
> > uml and xen could be integrated into the VPS project (with a different herd)
> > but i don't know what their maintainers are thinking about this
>
> UML is not complicated or hard to maintain.  I'm fairly happy
> maintaining it with the help of the kernel herd, and (being a linux
> kernel port) I think it really belongs in kernel, not in virtualization
> or vmm or vserver, or whatever.
>
> Maybe if there were some projects for full virtual server setups that
> could use xen or uml or vmware or ... as it's underlying hosting
> service, that could be useful, but just for maintenance, I don't think
> it's really necessary.
>
> I'm open to arguments in favor of such a project, tho, if people have
> real plans.  Certainly, an easier way to generate and maintain root
> filesystems for UML would be nice.
>
> Daniel

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