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From: Michael Weber <xmw@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Soliciting input for a non-maintainer update (NMU) GLEP
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:20:47
Message-Id: 51C57A66.70801@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Soliciting input for a non-maintainer update (NMU) GLEP by hasufell
1 On 06/22/2013 11:01 AM, hasufell wrote:
2 > On 06/22/2013 03:42 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
3 >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:06:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
4 >>> On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
5 >>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
6 >>>>>> I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm simply trying to
7 >>>>>> have a policy of what changes are welcomed/blocked WITHOUT interaction
8 >>>>>> from the listed maintainer(s) of a given package/herd.
9 >>>>>
10 >>>>> add a new field to metadata.xml that declares the state. make it an enum:
11 >>>>> ANYTHING_GOES (the default)
12 should reflect the circle of entities to do the change ... ANYBODY? Just
13 to not confuse it with an type of change.
14 >>>>> REQUIRES_HERD
15 >>>>> REQUIRES_MAINTAINER
16 >>>>
17 >> So we have:
18 >> Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD, REQUIRES_MAINTAINER}
19 >> What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES, VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
20 >>
21 >> So most of my packages might be coded with:
22 >> <nmu-policy who="REQUIRES_DEV" what="VERSION_BUMP" />
23 >> <nmu-policy who="REQUIRES_HERD" what="MAJOR_FEATURES" />
24 >>
25 >> - If you're a developer, you can do trivial fixes, add minor features,
26 >> bump the version.
27 >> - If you're in the herd, you can add major features.
28 >>
29 >
30 > Sounds cool.
31 >
32 > I don't think we need a GLEP or council vote on that.
33 ack.
34
35 But in every single metadata? Can I get a script for my 160 personal
36 edits, pls?
37
38 And what's a sane default?
39 Let's take a amount to time (~2month) for responsive people to mark
40 their preferences and default to EVERTHING_GOES/ANYBODY.
41
42 And we lost the timeout dimension. An "Feel free to bump my stuff"
43 override in devaway works for single maintained packages, how to
44 interpret these data for teams and multiple maints? AWOL people...
45
46 Bottom line: I think we need more of a culture of mutual trust than a
47 ton of metadata.
48
49 - Respect the right of an maintainer to take a few days until responding
50 (except QA, security, major skrew ups),
51 - Honor the effort other people put into packages you don't care to much.
52 - Take a look at the package/ebuild complexity to estimate the
53 maintainers affection.
54 - Ask for an second opinion aka peer-review.
55
56 (And yes I've failed at every single point at least once).
57
58 --
59 Michael Weber
60 Gentoo Developer
61 web: https://xmw.de/
62 mailto: Michael Weber <xmw@g.o>

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