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From: Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: packages.g.o: new features available
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:49:00
Message-Id: 20200708204032.649ff381@katipo2.lan
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] RFC: packages.g.o: new features available by Max Magorsch
1 On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 02:57:57 +0000
2 Max Magorsch <arzano@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > - all outdated packages (according to repology)
5
6 Unfortunately for Perl, repology can't be taken verbatim.
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8 There's a really fun problem with Perl versions, so I'll link you to
9 our writeup to explain it:
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11 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Perl/Version-Scheme
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13 This has some side effects visible in packagetest
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15 - https://packagestest.gentoo.org/packages/dev-perl/App-FatPacker
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17 Already up-to-date, it just can't tell because the versions don't match upstream.
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19 - https://packagestest.gentoo.org/packages/dev-perl/Alien-Build
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21 Already up-to-date, it just can't tell, because the versions don't match upstream.
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23 The "easy" workaround is to use `dev-perl/Gentoo-PerlMod-Version`, and
24 have it munch upstreams version into a "gentoo normalized version", and
25 then use that version for comparison.
26
27 But this is not itself going to remove the *whole* problem, just most of it.
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29 Sometimes upstream do cute things, like:
30
31 - Ship 1.60
32 - Then ship 1.61
33 - Then ship 1.612
34 - Then ship 1.62
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36 ^^^^ This is legal in perl.
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38 But many tools like repology get confused by this, and can think that
39 "1.612" is the "latest", when its really "1.62"
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41 This gets even more confusing when you simply stick a "v" on the front
42 of those versions, which entirely changes things.
43
44 - Ship v1.60
45 - Then ship v1.61
46 - Then ship v1.62
47 - Then ship v1.612
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49 ^ This is also legal in perl.
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51 And in this case, "v1.612" is in fact, the largest version.
52
53 But as-is, the logic used for perl stuff in packagetest will:
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55 - Misreport packages as outdated when they're fine
56 - Possible fail to report needed updates
57
58 How to properly gate this to happen *only* for perl packages may be the
59 trickiest part.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: packages.g.o: new features available Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o>