Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: removing dhcpcd from system???

[Allen Parker]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:41:30 -0700, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
> Luke-Jr posted <200409272020.58709.luke-jr@×××××××.org>, excerpted below,
> on Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:20:55 +0000:
>
>
>
> > On Monday 27 September 2004 7:50 pm, Travis Tilley wrote:
> >> wtf crack monkey voted to remove dhcpcd from the system profile? i
> >> dunno about you guys, but i like actually being able to connect to the
> >> internet. it's as essential as ifconfig.
> >>
> >> since i'd like to at least have a usable system of some kind, i've
> >> re-added dhcpcd to the amd64 2004.3 profile. please do me a favor and
> >> do NOT remove it again.
> > I didn't do it, but dhcpcd sure isn't essential to get an internet
> > connection. I've heard of various other methods such as setting a static
> > IP, PPPoE, PPP/dialup, pump (BOOTP/DHCP client), etc... IMO, removing it
> > was a good idea.
>
> No kidding.  I'm on amd64 here, and don't need nor want dhcp-anything.  It
> doesn't belong in the default profile, any more than NetBIOS over TCP/IP
> belongs in the MS default profile.  If it's not needed, as it isn't for
> many folks, it shouldn't be installed, for security reasons.

If you think that removing dhcpcd pisses *you* off... perhaps you can
explain why there aren't any ftp/http clients on the livecds?
*someone* thought it would be a good idea... hence... i've been
"cooking" my own livecds with actual useful stuff on them... ncftp,
elinks, NO dhcpcd, automatic network configs that conform to *MY*
networks 10.0.x.x vs 192.168.x.x with default nameservers/gateways
already active... in regards to *your* configurations, travis, just
wondering, are you building dedicated machines with static public ips?
(i've done it over ssh... thanks ovh.net!)

Rarely, if ever, do I personally have a machine that *requires* dhcp
to install/setup/etc... and if i do... "emerge dhcpcd" seems to work
alright for me, y'know? I'm currently managing about 4 machines (I
know, not that many) that have dhcpcd installed on them because I
don't have the time to go fuck with the default profiles and *REMOVE*
it, despite these particular machines having static PUBLIC ips..

*your* particular dependance on dhcpcd shouldn't be the subject of
public debate. *your* particular dependance on dhcpcd should be
handled by you, on *your* personal machine by simply emerging dhcpcd
along with *your* choice of bootloader, *your* choice of system logger
and *your* choice of cron daemon.

this is the beauty of gentoo... please, leave *your* personal
preferences out of *your* decision making process when it effects
*your* users.

this isn't a flame... only a request for sanity.

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