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On Sunday 28 September 2003 18:24, foser wrote: |
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> I don't know why this happens, but if it's really a sensible default |
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> there is no need to have a USE flag. Again the few users that need to |
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> have this another way can easily adapt the ebuild to their needs. |
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> I can only describe this one way : you think like KDE-ers do. Thats why |
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> it has this overabundance of settings which only works confusing. I know |
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> for the tinkerers out there it's great, but for the general Joe HomeUser |
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> or Jane OfficeAdmin it's pointless. The tinkerers can do the tinkering |
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> themselves, we don't have to hold their hands. |
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I think that many of the gentoo users and developers are like me in comming to |
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gentoo from running Linux From Scratch. Gentoo is started out as a tinckerers |
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distro. It is not gentoo's main point of view to be a distro for linux |
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newbees. And indeed, I'm more a kde kind of person than a gnome one. I really |
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really dislike the fact that in gnome it is very hard to make it do what YOU |
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want, not what the developers wanted. I also really dislike the ok, cancel |
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button reversal in gnome. |
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I don't think tinkerers need their hands held. However before LFS I ran |
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redhat. Do you know how difficult they make it to do any tinkering. Mandrake |
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etc. are even worse. I think tinkering should never be inhibited by patches |
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from gentoo. I want to be able to read a howto from the LDP and know that as |
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long as they don't talk about redhat or any other specific distro, it works |
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for me in that way, and that when it doesn't, and I want it to work in that |
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way, I can easilly make it work in that way without actually needing to edit |
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any ebuild. Editing ebuilds creates a maintenance hell. You either need to |
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never update, or edit the new one everytime there is an update. |
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Further wenn I were to review an application or, say, gnome. I would install |
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it, but I would certainly not want any gentoo customizations (I'm reviewing |
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gnome, not gentoo). I think there are enough cases for having a vanilla |
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useflag. I do agree with you that we don't want dozens of them. For that we |
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will get sticky use variables. |
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Paul |
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Paul de Vrieze |
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Gentoo Developer |
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Mail: pauldv@g.o |
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Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net |
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