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Andrew Gaffney wrote: |
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> Matthias Langer wrote: |
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>> by banning non-dev contributors from this list some of you may feel |
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>> better |
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>> - but gentoo as a whole will probably suffer. silencing people doesn't |
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>> make their opinions invalid. |
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> I keep seeing this argument over and over again. Many people are just |
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> completely misunderstanding. |
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> This is not a blanket silencing of any non-dev on the list. This is |
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> simply delaying the posting of messages from non-devs (and even devs |
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> that have "improperly" moderated in the past). If nobody moderates a |
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> particular message to the list within a set amount of time, the message |
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> passes through. |
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> Making the list "moderated" isn't the same as making a channel moderated |
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> on IRC. Anyone will still be able to speak, just with a slight delay, |
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> which allows us to maintain a good signal-to-noise ratio, and hopefully |
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> prevent re-occurrences of some of the nastier flamewars we've seen on |
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> the list lately. |
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Oh dear. "slight delay" in an email list forum? That's like saying |
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"you can take part in this face-to-face conversation but you have to |
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wait 30 seconds before you can say anything" In effect you reduce that |
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person to an on-looker who can throw in the occassional comment. The |
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comments themselves are reduced in their relevance or impact because by |
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the time they are heard, the conversation has moved on. |
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In effect, it's a ban: at the very least a two-tier system demarcated |
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along ill-chosen lines (dev / non-dev). |
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Calling the proposal a "ban" is not misunderstanding - it's simply |
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foresight. |
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At the very least, this is exactly the sort of reaction you get when you |
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exercise poor change management in a context where all participants (dev |
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and non-dev) are heavily invested in the success of the whole. |
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W. |
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