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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:35:24
Message-Id: 1134574040.3773.28.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy by Mike Frysinger
1 On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 00:25 +0000, Mike Frysinger wrote:
2 > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 05:59:17PM -0600, Jory A. Pratt wrote:
3 > > Mark Loeser wrote:
4 > > > Basically what I'm looking for here is an easy to understand explanation of
5 > > > what textrels are, why they are bad, and why they should hold back marking a
6 > > > package stable. The only information I've been able to find states that they
7 > > > could cause a performance hit, but this doesn't seem to warrant banning them
8 > > > completely in my eyes.
9 > > >
10 > > > Getting a clear cut policy on exactly what issues should hold a package back
11 > > > from being marked stable is what I'm looking for. Issues like textrels,
12 > > > executable stacks, etc is what I'm looking for to be defined and explained why
13 > > > we are to always avoid them. This should be added to existing documentation
14 > > > policy so it is somewhere for new devs to know about, and existing devs to
15 > > > have for a reference.
16 > >
17 > > Only problem I see with this is binary packages. We can not control
18 > > upstream binaries as everyone is aware of. So when does it become safe
19 > > to override stable packages that have texrel's and executable stacks?
20 >
21 > no idea what you mean by "override", but here's a crazy idea ... ask
22 > upstream to fix the issues. for example, we just reported executable
23 > stacks with the ut2004 game and Ryan of epicgames was so kind as to
24 > fix it up for us. some upstream peeps dont even know about these sort
25 > of things until you point them out.
26
27 Let me take that back again. This is resolved on amd64, but not on x86.
28 There's 2 binaries. This also explains why I didn't see the error and
29 closed the bug, I'm on amd64, whereas the bug reporter is on x86.
30
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32 Chris Gianelloni
33 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
34 x86 Architecture Team
35 Games - Developer
36 Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>