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Michał Górny wrote: |
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> On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:31:32 -0400 |
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> Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> |
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>> wrote: |
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>>> On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:33:59 -0400 |
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>>> Sylvain Alain <d2racing911@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>> The KDE team seems to work on that too : |
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>>>> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=134052539215508&w=2 |
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>>> it's actually worth it. |
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>>> more user-spread FUD or however you like to call it on the topic |
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>>> than I'm not sure if *devs* are actually working on that. I believe |
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>>> there's |
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>> Perhaps not official Gentoo devs, but users taking development |
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>> initiative to solve a problem in userland. I'm not an official Gentoo |
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>> dev, either, but I think it'd be a very bad idea to discourage or |
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>> ridicule such initiative. Someone putting in that much effort in light |
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>> of all the information already available isn't something that should |
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>> be taken lightly! |
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> I don't want to offend anyone but let's be honest: people start many |
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> initiatives, and they are not always right, no matter how many effort |
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> is put. I don't want to discourage it but sometimes I dislike |
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> the importunity accompanying it. |
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> Users are free to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm |
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> the rest of users. And I'm afraid that too much enthusiasm over mdev |
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> will actually cause a number of users to end up being disappointed |
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> that one or another magic requiring udev no longer works. |
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User perspective follows: |
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What I don't like about the way Walter, mdev, is being treated is this. |
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People say that if you don't like the way udev is going, WRITE CODE. If |
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you are not going to write code, don't complain about udev. Then |
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Walter, I think I got the name right, comes along and comes up with a |
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alternative for udev that seems to work well for the people using it. |
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Then people complain because he is actually stepping up and WRITING |
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CODE. Well, it seems a person can't win on this. |
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Some, no names mentioned, need to make up their minds. Either listen |
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when people don't like the way things are going or let people write code |
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to have a alternative to whatever people are not liking and don't |
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complain because people are stepping up and doing something about it, |
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for example, writing code. |
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As to mdev not being as feature rich as udev, well, some people don't |
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need the features udev has and I don't think anyone is saying mdev is |
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the same as udev. It even says on the wiki that there are some |
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situations where it should not even be tried because it is known to not |
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work. Given that, if a person tries to use mdev to replace udev in a |
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situation where it is known not to work, then they should read more |
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closely. It's not Walters fault, it's the person in the chair. |
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Now, since Walter didn't like the way things are going, can he write |
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code and be left in peace to do so? Maybe have a little bit of support |
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while he is doing it? |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |
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