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On 23:47 Sat 19 Jan , Walter Dnes wrote: |
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> ... |
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> On a lark, I once tried the "default/linux/x86/10.0" profile for a |
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> re-install on my netbook without "-*". I soon ended up with more "-" |
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> entries in make.conf and package.use, than I have add-on entries when |
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> using "-*". And I was only half-way through installing the apps I |
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> normally use. I went back to "-*". |
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I have to admit that I've been using USE="-* <myflags>" in my server boxes for a long |
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time now, however it's a nasty hack and I wish for a better alternative. |
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Profiles exist for reasons, bypassing them may break things unless you |
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know what you're doing and you're active in Gentoo's community (so that |
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have knowledge of certain bugs/news/discussions in mailing lists etc.). |
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The problem is not with experienced users who can find their way. It is |
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with newcomers. I like the idea of having minimal base profiles and on |
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top of them desktop and/or server profiles enabling certain things. |
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Because newcomers will not have to scratch their heads (as I wrote |
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previously) from the first moment, if they enable one of them. |
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Of course, even experienced users sometimes may become frustrated, |
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when doing everything manually. (-* etc.). And things become more |
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complex as time passes (new EAPIs, new portage features). |
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This thread is about suggestions on better server profiles and need to |
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think about that. For example,I would like to see a server profile with |
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iptables and iproute2 on the system set. Maybe also a logger or |
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a metapackage pulling certain packages (eg. bind-tools and nfs-utils). |
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But it's just me, and it's a matter of taste/experience. I don't build |
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server machines every day, others do and it would be much appreciated if |
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they could respond here. |
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Just, let's don't forget that profiles are not only about USE flags |
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(because most discussions have been about the latter). |
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Panagiotis Christopoulos ( pchrist ) |
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( Gentoo Lisp Project ) |
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