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On Sunday 08 November 2009 19:24:47 Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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> On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:10:34 Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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> > On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: |
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> > > В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: |
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> > > > And because I'm a lazy |
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> > > > I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just |
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> > > > fix it instead |
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> > > Do you mean that whatever you commit to the tree is not your |
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> > > responsibility? Sorry but it's your job. |
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> > I make things work. Cosmetics are quite low on my list of priorities. |
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> > Feel free to fix such things. |
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> > All "my" packages are free for all to bump, fix and extend, as long as |
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> > whoever touched it is willing to fix any issues that happen from it. |
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> using this definition of "correct" (the package installs w/out failure and |
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> it seems to work), there is a lot of crap that could be in the tree. that |
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> doesnt mean the ebuild should be in the tree. this kind of work and |
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> opinion belongs in sunrise, not the main tree. |
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I hope you realize what percentage of packages are completely unmaintained or |
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only tangentially maintained. By that reasoning we better cut out everything |
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apart from the base system, xorg, kde and gnome. Oh, and python. (If I missed |
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anyone here, please don't take this personal. It's a reductio ad absurdum I'm |
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doing here, so it better be absurd!) |
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If you haven't noticed (here's a really hilarious one!) ... |
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We currently do not have anyone seriously maintaining all the perl bits. |
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There's, uhm, ... err ... there used to be Tove, who did an awesome job. |
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I took over benchmark and forensics herd because they were empty, not because |
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I care about those packages. |
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sgml and ha-cluster herds are quite vacant as far as I can tell. |
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bugwranglers are understaffed and can barely keep up with the current flood |
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from our motivated and skillfull bug-finding users. |
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So maybe now you understand my mentality of just fixing whatever bugs I |
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encounter. I don't care at all about your idealistic views of how we were to |
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do things if everything worked. Reality doesn't tolerate it well. Bugs happen, |
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and we better start fixing them. |
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> we dont have a QA team to |
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> fix installed packages; they're here to maintain the *quality* of the |
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> tree. |
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That's good. So start fixing stuff. Maybe take over the empty herds until you |
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manage to recruit some replacements. |
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If you feel you have too much time you could search on bugzilla for "patch" |
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and start fixing those bugs. "Bump" is also a funny search. |
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Or if you don't know what else to do, there's this nice "Bug Wranglers" search |
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at the bottom of the bugzilla pages. Click on it and get the amount of bugs in |
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the bugwrangler queue under 100 if you can! |
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Once you've done that for 3 months we can renegotiate cosmetic bugs and QA. |
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Kthxbai, |
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Patrick |