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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:01:30
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo by "Paweł Hajdan
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On 16-06-2010 16:39, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> On 6/16/10 5:33 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> - With these Code of Conduct rules in place how come DevRel >> is not publicly reminding of these rules where necessary? > > I think the initiative is on the offended person's side. If a developer > is being aggressive and needlessly argumentative towards other people, > that's clearly a misconduct. Similarly for aggressive users.
There is a common misconception here that I feel the need to address. It was never the direct responsibility of the Developer Relations team to "police" the communication mediums nor was it assigned the responsibility to enforce the CoC. The "enforcement" of the CoC was orginally assigned to the Proctors Project. When that project ended, that responsibility was not specifically assigned to any other project. Users and developers should be aware that the Developer Relations team besides taking care of the HR side of Gentoo, including the recruitment and retirement of developers, is responsible for mediation between developers (only developers) and may take disciplinary actions when developers misbehave, usually by request of another developer or team. The responsibility of mediation between users and developers, as well as the review of abusive behaviour by users has been assigned to the User Relations team for quite a few years now. There was a mostly silent agreement between some teams, including DevRel, UserRel, Council and Trustees, that after the Proctors project was terminated, the enforcement of the CoC, including any moderation or banning actions, would fall to the UserRel team.
>> What can we do to make Gentoo a friendlier community? > > We need leadership. I remember very well when the leader of one of the > Gentoo projects I participate in reminded me to always say "thanks" to > people who are helping us on Bugzilla. A small thing, but wasn't he right? > > I believe it's the project leaders and the Council who ultimately set > the tone.
Leadership can help by making people focus on goals, promoting shared views and make developers less likely to get entangled on flame wars. However, even though those with more prominent roles like project leaders and council members have an extra responsibility as their actions have greater exposure, it's critical that all members of the community realize that it's up to "each and every one of us" to set the tone. One of the goals of the CoC was to make it clear that every single one of us affects the tone of the community and that each of us can and should make an effort to promote a better tone that will ultimately lead to a "friendlier community".
> Paweł >
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Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o>