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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM, C Bergström <cbergstrom@×××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström <cbergstrom@×××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has |
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>>> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in fact. |
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>>> You get the web interface, IMAP, POP, 2 token authentication (if you |
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>>> want to enabled it) and lots of other things. etc etc |
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>> How about the source code? |
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> Do you have the source for github? |
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That would be why I point out that we have debates over its use. |
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Right now we're accepting it mainly because it is an alternative. I |
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suspect there would be more concern if it were proposed that we move |
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to it exclusively. |
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> There are "free" alternatives and this is the exact same thing as |
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> github. IMAP and POP are comparable to git as google hosted apps is |
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> comparable to github. |
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I think that is actually your best line of argument. They're just a |
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black box that accepts SMTP and makes available POP, and that is all |
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Gentoo uses. They just happen to offer an MUA on the side, which g.o |
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devs/staff can use at their discretion. |
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I'm not convinced it is the way to go, all the same. |
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> There's a line between being passionate and |
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> ignoring a sensible good alternative. I can't say where to draw that |
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> line, but imho I hope pragmatic people will take a look instead of |
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> just dismissing it. |
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I have nothing against Gmail and I'm composing this email using it. |
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Even so, unless we were simply unable to host our own mail, I'm not |
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sure I'd advocate moving g.o over to Google apps. |
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That doesn't mean I'm not willing to be pragmatic. I just think that |
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making a change like this really should be done only out of necessity. |
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There are other Gentoo services that I'd sooner see go than email. |
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> Oh and btw - the whole problem comes because people are forwarding to |
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> gmail. Is that open source? It's clear a large number of people |
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> already use and depend on the exact same service I'm suggesting. How |
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> on earth could those same people object... (I don't see the open |
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> source communit up in arms over yahoo mail and gmail..) |
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I can use Gmail personally and still object to forcing everybody else |
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to use it. I don't see that as hypocrisy at all. |
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> Do you own a phone that connects to this email? Android, iOS.. etc |
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> aren't "open source", but somehow we survive.. |
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Android is more or less open-source. There are some blobs in it, but |
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not all that much more than you'd find on a typical PC running Gentoo. |
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But again, Gentoo doesn't provide cell phones or require that anybody |
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own one. If somebody wants to read dev.g.o on their iPhone, I don't |
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have a problem with that. If we were to force anybody who wanted to |
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subscribe to dev.g.o to own an iPhone I would have a problem with |
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that. |
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Rich |