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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:17:34 +0200 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: |
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> On 07/10/2017 10:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o> wrote: |
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> >> |
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> >> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:49:40 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> >> |
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> >>> In the case of amd64 we already |
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> >>> encourage individual package maintainers to stabilize their own |
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> >>> packages |
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> >> |
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> >> Huh? Have our rules changed? As per devmanual[1] and GLEP 40[2] |
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> >> stabilization must be carried out by arch teams, unless a special |
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> >> arrangement is done between a developer and a team. |
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> >> |
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> > |
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> > The docs are probably out of date - I'm not sure if the policy is |
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> > documented anywhere. However it has been a fairly longstanding policy |
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> > at this point that amd64 allows individual maintainers to stabilize |
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> > their own packages. |
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> > |
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> We looked after it for wg-stable (which died out as a result of rather |
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> low participation, maybe it should be rebooted if people feel like |
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> discussing this again), there isn't any authoritative policy allowing |
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> it, GLEP:40 explicitly removes the possibility to do it for x86. That |
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> said, for a number of packages maintainer stabilization can likely make |
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> sense, the opposite view is four-eyes principle, it is always good to |
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> have someone else build-test etc, but this is greatly helped by |
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> tinderboxing efforts (thanks toralf) etc. So one likely output if |
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> wg-stable is to come up with something would be a replacement GLEP for |
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> 40 that matches the current state, and also kernel auto-stabiliation (as |
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> discussed in [section 3.2 (Kernel)] |
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So, am I understanding this correctly that right now a package |
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stabilization by maintainer without explicit permit from an arch |
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team will be the violation of active and approved policies? |
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Despite the maintainer-driven stabilization seems to be "a fairly |
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longstanding policy" I'm reluctant to do such stabilization myself, |
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because anyone may point out later that such action is a violation |
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of the written policies and I will have nothing to defend me. |
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Even if such stabilization is allowed, there are unanswered |
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questions here: |
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- is following seciton 4.1 from wg recommendations is sufficient? |
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- should developer test each stabilization candidate on an |
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up-to-date stable setup? |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |
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