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On Tuesday 28 September 2004 7:23 pm, Mark Dierolf wrote: |
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> This whole conversation has gotten out of hand. Step back and realize that |
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> a massive portion of gentoo's userbase wants/needs dhcp. It's a big thing. |
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A massive portion might *need* PPPoE. DHCP is *almost never* required to get |
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on a network. In almost every DHCP-based network, users can set a static IP |
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and get connectivity without any problem. This includes every Cable ISP I |
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have encountered. |
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> If you really want to *strip* gentoo, get rid of wget. WTF is wget doing in |
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> by default?? |
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I haven't examined wget in detail, but it seems to only have the minimum of |
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what is neccesary for its purpose. |
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> The reason is, wget is needed by portage. |
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Actually, Portage can use any smaller replacement you might have... |
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> For many users, dhcp is needed as well. If I can't connect to the net, I |
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> can't emerge dhcpcd to get on the net. Circular dependencies suck. |
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Please try setting your IP statically. I think you will find that it works. |
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> What about python?? I hate python! |
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Using an interpreted language would allow Gentoo to have Portage installed |
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within the rsync tree. Then, people wouldn't need to worry about having a new |
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enough version of Portage for their tree. Too bad this possible feature is |
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completely unused. |
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I know there was a debate a while back about whether Portage-NG should be |
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Python or C or whatever, so there's obviously reasons they chose to use it... |
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> fbset?? Framebuffers suck! |
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No comment. Not sure why that would be in system. |
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> nano?? I fucking hate nano, it frustrates the hell out of me! |
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So emerge another editor. Nano isn't in system. You can have *any* editor, but |
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you must have at least one. Nano just happens to be the default option. From |
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what I can tell without much examination, Nano also looks to be the most |
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minimalist of the editors available... |
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> modutils?? I haven't used modules since 1998! |
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Your loss. I don't like to reboot for everything I change in my kernel. |
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> hdparm?? I don't even HAVE a hard disk on my PXEBOOT! |
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Why is a PXEBOOT using a normal profile anyway? |
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> slocate?? I've never used the locate database, my telepathy tells me where |
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> files are! |
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Is that in system? I don't think it is... :? |
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> Is our goal just to be able to boot, or do we want to be able to boot and |
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> do something? |
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If you can't do anything without network, you have other issues. |
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Luke-Jr |
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Developer, Utopios |
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http://utopios.org/ |
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