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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:11:09
Message-Id: 1132686363.27288.79.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation by Grant Goodyear
1 On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 12:03 -0600, Grant Goodyear wrote:
2 > Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Tue Nov 22 2005, 09:15:27AM CST]
3 > > > Well, if we could educate the users that stage2 tarballs are totally
4 > > > pointless, and that running bootstrap.sh followed by emerge -e system
5 > > > from a stage3 is pretty much *exactly* the same as starting a stage1
6 > > > from scratch...
7 > >
8 > > It isn't pretty much anymore. It *is* exactly the same.
9 >
10 > I keep hearing this, isn't there a real difference between a stage 1 and
11 > a stage 3 install inasmuch as somebody who needs (or wants) to
12 > dramatically tailor what's in the system profile can choose to do so
13 > from a stage 1 or 2, but would have to remove packages after the fact if
14 > starting from a stage 3? I wouldn't have a problem with that, as long
15 > as we document it, but it just seems that the claim that the old and new
16 > methods produce _exactly_ the same results seems to be stretching things
17 > a bit.
18
19 Who said that removing something isn't a part of the procedure to get an
20 identical build?
21
22 The point is that following the proper steps, one *can* get the exact
23 same output. This would include using --newuse and cleaning out unused
24 packages, along with any other maintenance items that would be required.
25
26 --
27 Chris Gianelloni
28 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
29 x86 Architecture Team
30 Games - Developer
31 Gentoo Linux

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