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On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 07:59 -0400, Josh Glover wrote: |
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> Quoth Gabriel Ebner (Tue 2004-05-25 12:34:11PM +0200): |
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> > foser wrote: |
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> > > This has been brought up before. Gentoo minimizes branding and I do not |
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> > > think this warrants yet another USE flag. This is exactly what the |
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> > > 'hardened php' thread was about, introducing USE flags for such |
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> > > trivialities. |
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> What is trivial to you may not be to others. |
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Yeah and what is trivial to you may not be to others. This is exactly |
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what i mean with adding flags for rare situations : there's always |
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people not going to like a certain default choice, you can't possibly |
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add USE flags for all situations. |
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> > > Using another splash screen for gnome is editing 1 gconf key. I do not |
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> > > consider it intrusive (you see it for like 3 secs & how often do you log |
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> > > in) & I never had one complaint about it (on the contrary). |
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> > However, such a branding USE flag would be nice, and there are currently two |
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> > packages in ebuilds which could make use of it (gnome, gdm) AFAIK, with |
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> > maybe apache coming. |
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> > I suspect that there are other users out there who'd like to have a more |
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> > vanilla system. |
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'more of a vanilla system'.. get a hold on here. Does 'vanilla' really |
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mean to you you can't see a gentoo logo ? It's more about sources that |
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are not patched the hell out of. |
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> Exactly! If there was ever a good candidate for a global USE flag, |
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> this is it. Some might want vanilla packages, some might want the |
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> Gentoo "bling-bling", why not let them choose, especially since |
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> people have gone to the trouble of creating awesome Gentoo artwork! :) |
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Yeah this is the best candidate for a global USE flag i've seen in a |
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long long time. Really.. no, i'm not being sarcastic here. |
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It's a matter of setting 1 config file if you don't like it, is that so |
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hard ? |
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> Foser, we cannot just refuse to add new flags when there is a compelling |
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> reason for one! Just because you think there are too many USE flags is |
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> *not* a good reason to be against adding any more just out of principle! |
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Actually it is. This is a perfect example of such a stupid flag that |
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99.9% of the people don't care about. Branding in Gentoo is not |
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intrusive and minimal, especially in comparison to most other larger |
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distros. |
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And most interesting part -brought up in earlier discussions about this |
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same triviality- is that no-one ever complained about the branding of |
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grub which has been there for an eternity. Or what about the cursor pack |
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coming with X (they're not on by default, but do take up space). Noone |
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cared. Hell if zul had just added this to apache without notification I |
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doubt it would've ever been discussed. |
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Yeah we want to choice ad infinitum. I rather rip the 'branding' out |
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than adding a USE flag for such a non-issue. |
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- foser |
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