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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 02:14:40
Message-Id: 20080531031432.24169d4c@snowcone
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?) by Nirbheek Chauhan
1 On Sat, 31 May 2008 07:38:12 +0530
2 "Nirbheek Chauhan" <nirbheek.chauhan@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > 1) You say the benefits haven't been pointed out, while several posts
4 > have already done so. You seem to be the only one pretending to be
5 > unaware of them.
6
7 No no no. The benefits described would be obtained by fixing libtool.
8 What you get from as-needed is a half-arsed sometimes-working subset of
9 those benefits. as-needed is not the fix for the libtool problems.
10
11 > 2) The "expense of breaking things" is completely unqualified in your
12 > post. Here's some context: "expense" is minimal since the problem is
13 > easily fixable, and "breaking things" is the list of bugs on the
14 > tracker bug -- 19 with most of them already having patches that just
15 > need to be committed
16
17 And all of which are utterly pointless.
18
19 > 3) You say fixing libtool is the correct solution but you don't say
20 > why or explain how. You don't give any information at all, and due to
21 > the non-existant evidence, I am going to take the statement with a
22 > fist of salt.
23
24 I'm assuming everyone contributing to this thread knows exactly what the
25 libtool problems are... But from the looks of things, plenty of people
26 are quite happy to jump in and yell when they don't have the slightest
27 clue what the root problem is, what as-needed changes, what as-needed
28 breaks or how as-needed is unrelated to the problem. And unfortunately,
29 it looks like those people are the ones that're going to be making the
30 decisions.
31
32 --
33 Ciaran McCreesh

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