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On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 01:29:32PM -0700, Rob Cakebread wrote: |
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> I think the first sentence should say "staff" rather than "developer": |
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There also was a little discussion on irc about this topic a few |
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minutes ago. Please refer to this part of the glep: |
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"In this document the term developer is used for every person being an |
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offical member of Gentoo Linux such as people working on |
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documentation, people working on the infra team or the people |
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working on ebuilds (who could be considered real developers)." |
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Please s/developer/staff if you're uncomfortable with this abuse of |
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the term developer. The main purpose of the glep is to make the people |
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working on the forums offical and not to taint the term developer - |
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which has already happened: |
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http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml |
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The term developer seems to be used for people working on docs and |
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infra or even just recruiting people as well. I have no problem being |
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a developer or staff or whatever you call it, this is about being an |
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official member of the team. This seems however be an issue that |
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shouldn't be addressed in _this_ discussion. For your convenience, |
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we'll change the term to staff in the document. |
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> "Recent events such as the election of trustees or the new metastructure |
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> poll are effectively affecting the forums, so the wish to be part of the |
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> decision as an equal member is present among the moderators." |
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> How exactly did recent voting affect the forums and why should |
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> Foundation members vote to give you voting rights because of what is |
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> affecting the forums? (Assuming Foundation members would have to |
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> vote to change who can vote). |
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Theoretically the trustees can decide to do whatever they want with |
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the forums. They probably won't, but if anyone else who may be |
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affected by their decisions is allowed to vote, why shouldn't we? |
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The metastructure poll is affecting the forums in terms of us not even |
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knowing where we fit into the metastructure even though f.g.o is in |
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the offial domain gentoo.org. |
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Becoming developer^wstaff should give us the right to vote. Since |
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every other developer, infra staff, docs-writer or other person |
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contributing time to gentoo as part of an official project, this |
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should would be fair enough imho. |
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> Its arguable that moderators being non-staff is a good thing because its |
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> non-staff essentially censoring and deleting other non-staff in the |
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> forums, so make a good case ;) |
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That's why the glep was written. |
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> Seems like you'd fit perfectly under User Relations, wherever they fall |
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> under the toplevel project structure. |
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I don't really have a clue myself, so you name it. ;-) |
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cheers, |
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Wernfried |
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