Re: [gentoo-java] Want to affect how JSRs are developed?

[Dalibor Topic]

robert burrell donkin wrote:

> apache's position is well known to all the players. however, opinions
> from other FOSS folks haven't really been heard. if people can stand
> the NDAs, they could sign up as members and work inside the system or
> just make a noise (sun is really focussed on GNU/linux ATM).

Let's not get too excited: The work on the next version of the JCP is 
already underway, being carved out behind closed doors between Sun, IBM, 
Intel, Google, Apache, and the rest of the aristocracy.

Signing up now to make noise? You'll all make your merry deals without 
us being able to influence them, anyway, like you all did before. This 
current JCP system is the one created by 'the Apache compromise', after 
all, and no one asked for our input back then, either.

What we can do, is to make sure that come next elections we know for 
sure what everyone's deeds, rather than pretty talk, are on the JSRs 
they lead, and make sure that those organizations that don't have a 
clean slate (i.e. open source RI, open source TCK, creative commons 
licensed spec, open mailing list, wiki, svn, and all that) on *all* 
their JSRs don't get re-elected onto the EC, and hopefully someone 
interested in fixing the system does.

How about that?

cheers,
dalibor topic
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