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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-kernel@l.g.o
Cc: ago@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:05:54
Message-Id: 20130622020259.7a411a7a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions by Greg KH
1 On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:58:01 -0700
2 Greg KH <gregkh@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > I bumped the vanilla-kernel sources yesterday, and deleted some
5 > obsolete, and known-insecure versions at the same time (i.e. the 3.7
6 > and 3.8 ebuilds.)
7
8 Thank you for keeping an eye on them; I got into a habit of only
9 bumping gentoo-sources, so I don't always remind the to do vanilla,
10 I'll do my best to add it to the habbit in the future.
11
12 > They were added back because they were the last releases marked
13 > "stable" for some arches.
14
15 Yes, this is actively being checked to avoid that there is no stable
16 kernel present; if you don't want that to happen then you should make
17 an individual arrangement with the arch teams, such that they are aware
18 that the stabilization of this package is individually arranged.
19
20 Since ago does stabilizations for multiple arches, is involved in
21 security bugs and did the restore on this particular package; I have
22 added him to CC so he is aware of this discussion going on.
23
24 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.kernel/697
25
26 > In thinking about this, that's totally wrong. Either all of these
27 > ebuilds are marked stable, or none are. And we should really NEVER
28 > have known buggy ebuilds marked stable for the vanilla kernels, as
29 > that's just dangerous on many different levels.
30 >
31 > So, should I just mark these always stable, or never stable? I don't
32 > think we should mix the two, as the previous versions are always known
33 > buggy, and have problems, and shouldn't be used.
34
35 I think it may be a nice idea to have vanilla-sources reflect upstream;
36 that is, always stable and drop versions which are not.
37
38 If possible we could script it to keep the package unstable the first X
39 days it is in Portage to keep the stabilization effect in place; that
40 way Gentoo users are unaffected if something goes wrong the day after
41 you push a patch, I assume not, but you never know.
42
43 --
44 With kind regards,
45
46 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
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