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W dniu wto, 10.04.2018 o godzinie 14∶39 -0500, użytkownik Matthew Thode |
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napisał: |
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> On 18-04-10 21:23:26, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > W dniu wto, 10.04.2018 o godzinie 12∶47 -0500, użytkownik Matthew Thode |
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> > napisał: |
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> > > On 18-04-10 19:28:11, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > > W dniu pon, 09.04.2018 o godzinie 12∶50 -0500, użytkownik Matthew Thode |
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> > > > napisał: |
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> > > > > On 18-04-09 18:57:27, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > > > > But let's get to the details. |
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> > > > > > |
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> > > > > > Your proposal -- once again -- makes Trustees the highest-level |
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> > > > > > governing body of Gentoo and reduces Council to technical matters. This |
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> > > > > > is against GLEP 39 which clearly states that Council is responsible for |
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> > > > > > all global decisions and as far as I'm aware is the most recent policy |
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> > > > > > defining the role of Council. Unless you have a strong reason to |
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> > > > > > believe that this policy has been illegally forced upon Gentoo, you are |
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> > > > > > not 'formalizing' anything but attempting to change well-established |
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> > > > > > metastructure and outright lying to the community that the current state |
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> > > > > > is undefined. |
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> > > > > > |
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> > > > > > I believe that Trustees can't be the highest governing body of Gentoo |
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> > > > > > for a number of reasons. I will enumerate those I can think of below: |
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> > > > > > |
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> > > > > GLEP 39 is not legally binding. This proposal would make glep 39 need |
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> > > > > changes (mainly that there would be a governing body above council). At |
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> > > > > that point glep 39 could possibly be made into a bylaw. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > Are you saying that Trustees do not have to respect the result of vote |
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> > > > done among all Gentoo developers? |
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> > > |
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> > > The trustees are beholden to those that elected them, namely the |
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> > > foundation membership, while many of them are developers, some are not. |
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> > > So, no, we do not have to respect a result of those that are not our |
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> > > members. |
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> > |
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> > What is your claim, exactly? Are you saying that back in 2005 |
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> > the Foundation members and developers were disjoint the way they are |
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> > today? Or are you claiming that Trustees don't have to respect old |
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> > rules because they have accepted additional non-developer members |
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> > afterwards? |
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> > |
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> > According to LDAP, you have joined Gentoo in 2011. GLEP 39 was |
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> > effective already back then, and unless your recruitment was much |
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> > different from mine (2010), you should've been taught about it. So why |
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> > the sudden surprise about it? |
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> > |
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> |
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> The Trustees are responsible to those that elected them (Foundation |
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> members). |
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> I as a Gentoo Developer should respect GLEP 39. |
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> I as a Gentoo Trustee do not need to respect GLEP 39. |
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> These are different roles. I think selinux did role based behavior well. |
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> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SELinux/Role-based_access_control |
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> |
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Does that mean that I as Gentoo Developer does not have to respect |
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the decisions made by Trustees? In that case I suppose all we have to |
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do is leave the Foundation. |
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-- |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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