Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Agenda item: Formalize Gentoo's org structure
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:23:20
Message-Id: CAGfcS_nR_xdW6kXveaYO=wy_wo2da3bKV1A5GDaBgK29dSyXeA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Agenda item: Formalize Gentoo's org structure by Alec Warner
1 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > Would you change GLEP 39 here and get a vote of the developer-base to change
4 > the metastructure?
5 >
6
7 IMO if we ever do get around to figuring out what the contributors to
8 Gentoo actually want, we should probably give them more than a yes/no
9 option. We use condorcet voting - it costs us nothing to give people
10 as many options as people care to define, because there is no
11 strategic voting advantage to diluting options with condorcet as long
12 as the ballot doesn't get so long that people can't even rank it.
13
14 I'd suggest doing that BEFORE spending a ton of effort refining
15 things. Maybe ask people where they want things to go in a
16 non-binding way, at at least look at the top few candidates.
17
18 Then go ahead and refine the proposed path forward (hopefully with
19 both Council/Trustee backing, but if they want to propose separate
20 options they could), and then put that up for a binding vote.
21
22 If we think this is a good idea I'd suggest that we just let people
23 write up proposals on the wiki (anybody can write one or more
24 proposals as long as at least one dev or foundation member backs it -
25 if there is abuse then limit to one each), then these get copied to
26 locked-down pages prior to voting, and each proposal is assigned a
27 unique ID for the ballot. Voting starts, people can discuss or try to
28 sway votes on the lists, and then we get the ranked tally. This would
29 be non-binding and could be used by Council/Trustees/others as useful
30 feedback so that at least we're not all waving our hands in the air
31 about what "everybody" wants.
32
33 We would still have to settle who gets to vote. IMO it should just be
34 devs, but honestly the number of non-dev Foundation members isn't that
35 large at present and it probably wouldn't change the outcome (keeping
36 things this way is important, because if we ever do end up in a
37 situation where the two bodies want to go in different directions we
38 have an even bigger mess).
39
40 --
41 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-nfp] Agenda item: Formalize Gentoo's org structure Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>