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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Gentoo metastructure reform - reality and SPI
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:46:14
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mzJy9v9RMxRH_mr0=chebY9D4DdGrKjbmrUwVAC8Hb-g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Gentoo metastructure reform - reality and SPI by Daniel Campbell
1 On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > I think this structure could work -- despite being dependent on an
4 > outside entity -- as long as our contract with SPI allows us to retain
5 > rights to our assets. i.e. they can't rob us blind in the event of a
6 > falling out or something.
7
8 Who would even be the parties to such a contract? The Gentoo
9 Foundation would almost certainly sign a contract handing over the
10 assets, but unless we keep it around (which involves almost all the
11 work it does today; maybe a little less if it has no financial
12 transactions though I'm not sure if such corporations generally are
13 allowed to exist) then there is no successor in interest to the
14 contract. Legally nobody would have standing to enforce the contract.
15
16 If SPI screws over Debian, then legally there is no "Debian" to
17 contest the matter in a court. SPI IS Debian as far as the law is
18 concerned. Ditto for Arch/Postgres/Libreoffice/FFMpeg/Xorg/etc.
19
20 Now, what I don't know is who their members/shareholders are legally.
21 They would have standing to initiative a shareholder lawsuit if they
22 felt that the corporation were not staying true to its charter. If
23 the project liaison becomes a shareholder then that becomes some
24 avenue of recourse, though we have no way to compel our project
25 liaison to take a particular action, just as today we have no way to
26 compel the Trustees to run the Foundation in any way (at least, not
27 legally).
28
29 > What really should decide this imo are the people who have been doing
30 > foundation work already. Ask them if they're okay with throwing away
31 > their work for a company to handle it for us. They're the ones most
32 > impacted by such a decision and deserve the most influence imo.
33
34 Nobody should be contributing with the expectation that people in the
35 future are beholden to them.
36
37 I'd argue that drobbins did a lot more work on this front than any of
38 the current Trustees. Should we have him decide for us?
39
40 The stuff I contribute to Gentoo is freely given. If I'm gone in a
41 few years I'd hope that the people carrying forward the work of Gentoo
42 would focus on what makes it most efficient for them to contribute and
43 not stop and wonder "what would this random past developer want us to
44 do?"
45
46 --
47 Rich

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