Gentoo Archives: gentoo-portage-dev

From: Alec Warner <warnera6@×××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Questions about CVS locations and GID...
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:08:08
Message-Id: 43452180.9080206@egr.msu.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Questions about CVS locations and GID... by Ciaran McCreesh
1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2
3 >On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:39:49 -0500 Brian Harring <ferringb@g.o>
4 >wrote:
5 >| So bluntly, shut up and let those who you think are being retarded,
6 >| be retarded. Discussions on this list regarding those attempts
7 >| shouldn't be heckled unless you're contributing to those efforts (and
8 >| I truly mean *contributing*, not trying to punch holes in embryonic
9 >| efforts that are trying to get off the ground addressing the major
10 >| issues up front).
11 >
12 >Pfff. By contributing to the design by showing what *won't* work, I'm
13 >saving a heck of a lot of wasted man hours that will otherwise be spent
14 >writing a non-working solution.
15 >
16 >A contribution of code is worthless if the code is completely wrong, no
17 >matter how much effort was spent producing it.
18 >
19 >But then, we all know how this goes. When the code's 'done', it gets
20 >merged, and then you start claiming "If you had any issues with it you
21 >should have brought them up at the design stage. It's too late now!".
22 >So really, it's a no win situation. Point out gaping design flaws at the
23 >start and you're accused of shooting holes in things that don't exist
24 >yet. Point out gaping design flaws when it's first merged and you're
25 >accused of shooting holes in things upon which people have spent lots
26 >of time. Point out gaping design flaws after it goes live and you're
27 >told it's too late.
28 >
29 >
30 >
31 Then I suggest you file this e-mail away and when the time comes that
32 the code is to be merged and it sucks ( and by sucks I mean more than
33 "it doesn't meet Ciaran's software engineering standards" ) you can
34 waive the mail in everyone's face. No project, specs or not, is ever
35 written right the first time. At the very least someone can take his
36 code and improve on it in the future.
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Questions about CVS locations and GID... Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@g.o>