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Ühel kenal päeval, N, 13.10.2016 kell 22:05, kirjutas William L. |
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Thomson Jr.: |
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> On Friday, October 14, 2016 4:43:38 AM EDT Mart Raudsepp wrote: |
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> > I have no interest in being automatically assigned to be a member |
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> > of |
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> > some foundation, and not know any of the related legalese, |
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> > benefits, |
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> > responsibilities, and so forth and THEN make my own decision if I |
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> > want |
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> > that to go hand in hand with my ability to contribute to Gentoo |
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> > technically without going through someone else who happens to have |
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> > agreed to be part of a Foundation. |
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> |
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> I believe that was the sentiment back in 08 when reviewing by laws |
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> before |
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> adoption. |
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> There are no responsibilities, liabilities, or any burden from |
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> foundation |
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> membership. If you are not interested it is essentially meaningless |
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> to you. At |
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> worst you do not vote. But there really is nothing bad about |
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> automatic |
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> membership even for those who have no interest. |
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It might affect any percentual quorum requirements, as mentioned |
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elsewhere. |
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It also means I'm officially (and automatically) part of some |
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organization structure in a country whose laws I have no idea of. For |
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example, can it somehow affect any future USA Visa applying needs if |
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something goes bad with the Foundation (which is completely out of my |
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control). Probably not, unless I'm an official trustee position, but |
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who knows. I just don't want to care at this point; once I do, I want |
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to be able to apply myself, and I might just as well do once I know the |
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details, at a point of time I want to spend time finding out. But it is |
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MY choice. |
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I don't think such automatic inclusion is even legal in my country case |
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(well, if the Gentoo Foundation were a non-profit in my country, but it |
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isn't, so it doesn't apply, but still). I don't know if it would be |
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legal in the state of New Mexico. |
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I have no idea what a Foundation means; I know what a MTÜ means in my |
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country. Can a foundation be considered a workplace, so (Gentoo) work I |
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do would be owned by it. I have no clue, and that's a problem. The |
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foundation page talks something about intellectual property rights, |
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does it mean I would be automatically assigning my copyright over to be |
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able to enforce these rights? I don't want to have a clue right now, |
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just don't force me to be a Foundation member if I want to be a Gentoo |
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developer. |
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And (people in official positions within the Foundation, or delegated |
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appropriate) should spell these kind of things out very clearly, so I |
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can make a well-informed decision in the future without spending too |
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much research. And then become a member if I see merit, by my OWN |
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choice. Just like I chose to become a Gentoo developer in 2006; I |
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didn't choose to become a foundation member, don't make me one |
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automatically. I believe there was no Gentoo Foundation then. |
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Mart |
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> There was a really big discussion on membership in 08 during the by |
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> laws |
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> review. I have many more emails than show in the archive sadly. I am |
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> pretty |
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> sure someone expressed that very same thus not having automatic |
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> inclusion. |
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> |
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> [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes |
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> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/threads/2008-05/ |
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