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Hi Michał, |
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El 26/03/18 a las 23:51, Michał Górny escribió: |
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> W dniu nie, 25.03.2018 o godzinie 21∶36 -0400, użytkownik Rich Freeman |
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> napisał: |
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>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera |
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>> (klondike) <klondike@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> "Comments by selected people are welcome. " |
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>> And this would be why I've maintained that having non-overlapping |
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>> Council/Trustees is a problem waiting to happen. We have two |
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>> governing bodies that disagree and continue to escalate things, in |
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>> part because we don't allow an overlap in membership and there are |
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>> only so many people interested in either job to go around. |
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>> My prediction is that everybody will continue to get indignant leading |
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>> up to the next Council election, then the developers will vote to |
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>> maintain the status quo, and then at the next Trustee election there |
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>> will be at most 0-2 extra nominees above the number of open slots, who |
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>> will probably be motivated mostly out of disagreement with the |
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>> Council, and then we'll get to watch the infighting for another year. |
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> The infighting won't die unless one or more of the following happens: |
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> 1. Trustees understand that Council is not about wielding absolute power |
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> but merely listening to developers. And developers are somewhat more |
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> people than the ~5 devs who repeatedly abuse the mailing lists in their |
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> protests, in order to force their will. |
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> 2. Trustees fix the past legal mess and find a reasonable way to protect |
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> future Trustees from the screwups of previous boards, making it possible |
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> for more people to be interested in Trustee positions, and effectively |
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> reducing the problem of power-hungry, incompetent candidates. |
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> 3. We disband the Foundation and lose all the assets but gain |
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> the ability to freely developer the distro without people who first |
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> generously offer their services to Gentoo, and then start demanding |
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> absolute power in the return. |
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Please don't derail the topic. If you want to discuss the Board of |
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Trustees and Foundation problems you are more than welcome to open a |
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different thread, either on gentoo-project or maybe on gentoo-nfp (which |
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may have less reach but be more appropriate). |
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I opened this thread to discuss proposals to fix the fact that with the |
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permission change of the gentoo-dev mailing list ordered by the council, |
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the majority of the stakeholders of the Gentoo Social Contract (anybody |
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other than Gentoo developers and those vouched by them) can't neither |
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propose nor discuss changes to said contract through the official |
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channels. If you have any input in that regard, I'll be more than happy |
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to read it. |
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Klondike |