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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Social Contract, Council: please fix the mess you cause
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:51:51
Message-Id: 1522101103.23621.6.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Social Contract, Council: please fix the mess you cause by Rich Freeman
1 W dniu nie, 25.03.2018 o godzinie 21∶36 -0400, użytkownik Rich Freeman
2 napisał:
3 > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera
4 > (klondike) <klondike@g.o> wrote:
5 > >
6 > > "Comments by selected people are welcome. "
7 >
8 > And this would be why I've maintained that having non-overlapping
9 > Council/Trustees is a problem waiting to happen. We have two
10 > governing bodies that disagree and continue to escalate things, in
11 > part because we don't allow an overlap in membership and there are
12 > only so many people interested in either job to go around.
13 >
14 > My prediction is that everybody will continue to get indignant leading
15 > up to the next Council election, then the developers will vote to
16 > maintain the status quo, and then at the next Trustee election there
17 > will be at most 0-2 extra nominees above the number of open slots, who
18 > will probably be motivated mostly out of disagreement with the
19 > Council, and then we'll get to watch the infighting for another year.
20 >
21
22 The infighting won't die unless one or more of the following happens:
23
24 1. Trustees understand that Council is not about wielding absolute power
25 but merely listening to developers. And developers are somewhat more
26 people than the ~5 devs who repeatedly abuse the mailing lists in their
27 protests, in order to force their will.
28
29 2. Trustees fix the past legal mess and find a reasonable way to protect
30 future Trustees from the screwups of previous boards, making it possible
31 for more people to be interested in Trustee positions, and effectively
32 reducing the problem of power-hungry, incompetent candidates.
33
34 3. We disband the Foundation and lose all the assets but gain
35 the ability to freely developer the distro without people who first
36 generously offer their services to Gentoo, and then start demanding
37 absolute power in the return.
38
39 --
40 Best regards,
41 Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Social Contract, Council: please fix the mess you cause "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@g.o>