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From: Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:47:38
Message-Id: F0B70B3E-AB7C-4414-9B85-9176467ACE26@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) by Roy Bamford
1 On December 12, 2020 8:24:44 AM EST, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
2 >On 2020.12.12 12:07, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote:
3 >> > I have a major concern with the concept of the council
4 >> > deciding to close any part of the forum. Its like this ...
5 >> > At present, Gentoo is a common carrier, like the mail.
6 >> > The content of letters and parcels is of little concern to the
7 >> > carrier.
8 >> >
9 >> > Gentoos status could be changed by a council decision to
10 >> > close any part of the forum from common carrier to publisher,
11 >> > were the council seen to be exercising editorial control.
12 >> > Being a publisher makes Gentoo liable for the published
13 >> > content. Gentoo could not run the forums at all under those
14 >> > conditions.
15 >>
16 >> This is misinformation at best, and deliberate confusion sowing at
17 >> worst.
18 >>
19 >> I assume that you're talking about the US legal situation. [#]
20 >>
21 >
22 ><snip totally irrelevant material>
23 >
24 >> [...]
25 >> ====================
26 >> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
27 >>
28 >> Cheers.
29 >>
30 >>
31 >>
32 >
33 ><snip references>
34 >
35 >>
36 >>
37 >> --
38 >> Andreas K. Hüttel
39 >> dilfridge@g.o
40 >> Gentoo Linux developer
41 >> (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)
42 >
43 >
44 >Rule 1 is never assume.
45 >That makes the rest of your post irrelevant.
46 >
47 >In the UK, which selfishly, is all that matters to me, if I compile
48 >and edit a community newsletter, I'm the publisher, with all the
49 >liabilities
50 >of a publisher. Like, say, the News of the World. I have editorial
51 >control and am liable for the content.
52 >
53 >When someone distributes that same newsletter by putting it
54 >through the village letterboxes, they have no liability for the
55 >content.
56 >
57 >In the same vein, is the council accidentality, through ignorance or
58 >otherwise, in danger of making Gentoo a publisher, with all the
59 >attached liability for content?
60 >
61 >I don't know the answer either.
62 >
63 >Oh, the News of the World folded after a lawsuit related to an
64 >article it published.
65
66 This doesn't correlate. The problem is and has been, the content is not aligned with our community values and standards.
67
68 Simple enough. No need for legal shenanigans, liability, etc.
69
70 --
71 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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