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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-10-14
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:04:02
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr_8fN0uzOP+dy1hTaqGJFYrgidUf5GqBzHL004BpOh_aA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-10-14 by Andrew Savchenko
1 On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:55 AM Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:43:52 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote:
4 > > >>>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
5 > >
6 > > > Hello all!
7 > > > 14 October (in 2 weeks from now)
8 > > > at 19:00 UTC Council will meet again.
9 > >
10 > > > Please provide agenda items you would like council@ to
11 > > > look at (and act) as a reply to this email.
12 > >
13 > > The new copyright policy (GLEP 76) leaves it to projects to decide
14 > > whether they use the long form or the simplified form of the copyright
15 > > attribution. I would like to ask the council to decide that the
16 > > simplified attribution [1] shall be used for ebuilds in the Gentoo
17 > > repository.
18 >
19 > I'd like to voice strongly against this motion.
20 >
21 > Rationale:
22 >
23 > - We have out of the Gentoo repository ebuilds which may be
24 > incorporated in the main repository and are licensed properly but
25 > an author requires his copyright in the first line to be preserved.
26 > GPL-2 allows us to use such ebuilds, but our past copyright policy
27 > mandating "Gentoo Foundation" doesn't, as well as proposed motion
28 > which mandates "Gentoo Authors" instead of the list of authors
29 > including main author if they require so.
30 >
31 > - GLEP 76 already did significant harm to our community by
32 > outlawing current anonymous or pseudonymous contributions. Moreover
33 > we have people who want to join community, but keep their identity
34 > hidden. This is understandable, especially for security or privacy
35 > oriented software. The harm should go no further. We have a lot of
36 > talks how we need more developers, but what we are doing in many
37 > steps including GLEP 76 is exactly the opposite: we are creating
38 > additional barriers due to vague and bureaucratic reasons.
39 >
40 > Of course if authors wants to use "Gentoo Authors" this should be
41 > allowed, especially for automatic migration from the "Gentoo
42 > Foundation" line. But we must preserve the right to use explicit
43 > list of authors (including "and others" if necessary) if a
44 > maintainer wants so.
45 >
46
47 My reading of ulm's proposal is that it is allowed.
48
49 Ebuilds "shall" use the simple attribution, not that they "must" use it.
50
51 To me that implies the simple attribution should be the default, but the
52 complex attribution is acceptable in the ::gentoo repo.
53 Maybe I'm misunderstanding the proposal?
54
55 -A
56
57
58
59 > Best regards,
60 > Andrew Savchenko
61 >

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