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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo conflicts and leadership
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 21:09:47
Message-Id: c2b9b96b-3ac9-0a04-e545-50212b8f3901@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo conflicts and leadership by Rich Freeman
1 On 05/01/17 20:58, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > The kind of leadership you're talking about doesn't require winning an
3 > election. Anybody can lead Gentoo in this way. This was largely the
4 > intended role of project leaders back in the day.
5 >
6 > The role of the Council is to keep all the disparate little projects
7 > that make up Gentoo working in relative harmony. That way when the
8 > leader of the C++ project wants to make a change that will break all
9 > the Java packages you don't just have the two project leads fighting
10 > WW3.
11 >
12 > If somebody has an idea for where they want to take Gentoo I hope
13 > they're not waiting until they win an election to implement it. If
14 > nobody has any such ideas then we wouldn't have anybody to elect into
15 > a Council role even if we thought the Council was the place for such
16 > folks.
17 >
18 It is a common gross misconception that it is the role of Council to
19 Lead. It is Not, and probably Never shall be. Council is a body for
20 facilitation only, and to that end, it mostly functions OK. I wondered
21 once whether that should be a Foundation role, but with the ideas
22 regarding reform currently circulating, this might be difficult to realise.
23
24 It is a completely different question to ask whether Gentoo -has-
25 leadership, -wants- leadership, or indeed -needs- leadership. Now, this
26 doesn't need to go so far as to say "we're going to do This or That" or
27 "we're NOT going to do This or That" but more that .. "we aim for this"
28 and "our key objectives are these" and for that we probably want to
29 appoint a new body to oversee, if that is something that either the
30 developers or community-at-large desire.

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