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From: hasufell <hasufell@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:31:12
Message-Id: 56179764.7070902@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 by Andrew Savchenko
1 On 10/09/2015 03:21 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
2 > On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 14:24:30 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Anthony G. Basile <blueness@g.o> wrote:
4 >>> So perhaps it was unwise for us to get into a situation where either 1) we
5 >>> violate the Social Contract or 2) we have to surmount a technically
6 >>> difficult situation.
7 >>>
8 >>
9 >> I don't see how mirroring github on bugzilla violates our social
10 >> contract, for several reasons:
11 >>
12 >> 1. Developers aren't required to post patches to bugzilla before
13 >> committing them to the tree, so nothing is lost by posting patches on
14 >> github that might otherwise not be posted anywhere.
15 >> 2. Developers aren't required to open bugs on bugzilla before fixing
16 >> bugs. So, nothing is lost by opening pull requests on github that
17 >> might otherwise not be opened anywhere.
18 >
19 > The problem comes not from the fact that GitHub stuff is not
20 > mirrored on bugzilla, but from the fact that with GitHub
21 > integration Gentoo becomes dependent on a proprietary
22 > metadata, which is outside of control of our community. Bugzilla
23 > mirroring was discussed only as one of possible solutions.
24 >
25
26 No, gentoo does not become dependent on a proprietary metadata.
27 The metadata is in the git repository. How someone communicates a change
28 to other maintainers is up to him and that may as well happen via
29 VoIP... you want people to record their talk and then upload it to
30 bugzilla? No, I won't, because it was encrypted and private.
31 The same applies for IRC, where you could argue we don't have full
32 control over the infrastructure and as a result, no one is allowed to
33 discuss stuff there, but only on bugzilla. This really makes no sense.

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Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>