Re: [gentoo-project] Evidence of idella4's damage to Gentoo, please

[Ian Delaney]

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 21:46:31 -0500
Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Ian Delaney <della5@×××××××××.au>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 18:48:33 -0500
> > Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
> >
>  [...]
> >
> > My oh my oh my. How many times do I have to say it. Once more this
> > time in the ML. I DIDN'T SEE THE EVIDENCE. YOU REFUSED TO SHOW IT
> > TO ME DESPITE A FORMAL REQUEST via "SUBJECT: request for data"
> > leaving me to appeal by reverse engineering and deductive
> > reasoning, only to have ffffalll guy smirk and insist my detective
> > work was all wrong as usual.
>
> So, here is the problem with trying to have a conversation like this
> in public.  I can't even confirm or deny whether you have been the
> subject of a comrel action or appeal.
>
> If I knew you were given an example of a situation where you had
> violated the CoC, I couldn't point that out either, nor could I cite
> situations where this very matter was discussed, were that to have
> happened.
>
> And this is the downside to conducting matters like this in private.
> You're welcome to make whatever accusations you wish, and nobody is
> really free to contradict them.
>

How's  this working for you / gentoo? 
Hint, this thread and its predecessors.

> However, I do think this is preferable to watching everybody go back
> and forth and line up and take sides (which is basically what happens
> when you try to do something like this in public; just look at the
> start of this thread).  So, if you want to assume I was a part of
> something sinister, then be my guest.
>

Get over it. They have already.

> As Gregory said earlier, we need to avoid "being a community that
> doesn't want to offend anybody."  I think people getting offended by
> issues like this is basically inevitable.
>
> I think that most of the general pros and cons to handling matters in
> private have already been discussed ad nauseum.  If something new
> comes up that warrants a reply I'll do so, but otherwise feel free to
> refer to the countless responses I've already given as I don't think
> it profits everybody to hear them again.  I'm not surprised that there
> is disagreement on a matter like this.  I can only promise to be
> up-front about things and if people have a problem they're welcome to
> vote for somebody else.  I can't really discuss what has transpired in
> any specific Council appeal.
>

Can you promise you can bear to endorse reform changes that represent
council's stance that directly contradict your own personal opinion.
i.e. Once they hit council agenda items and council meetings, you vote
according to the views and wants of the minuscule number of people in
ian's fanclub?

-- 
kind regards

Ian Delaney