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From: Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2021-07-11 - call for agenda items
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 21:53:57
Message-Id: YON/cbn0oQMqFisE@Aaron-Baumans-MacBook-Pro.local
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2021-07-11 - call for agenda items by Ulrich Mueller
1 On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 11:42:36PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
2 > >>>>> On Mon, 05 Jul 2021, Aaron Bauman wrote:
3 >
4 > > On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 12:17:35PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
5 > >> In the past, the council had also banned EAPIs. However, that didn't
6 > >> make much of a practical difference because an EAPI cannot be added
7 > >> to eapis-banned in layout.conf unless all ebuilds are gone. Maybe we
8 > >> should have a rule like the following instead:
9 > >> "A deprecated EAPI is considered banned when the Gentoo repository
10 > >> no longer contains any ebuilds using it."
11 >
12 > > Having the council vote to officially ban an EAPI does have
13 > > practicality. The work done by those porting ebuilds, removing old
14 > > packages, etc is hindered when other begin committing ebuilds
15 > > deprecated but not banned.
16 >
17 > > I would ask that the council continue the official motions and votes
18 > > to ban EAPI's prior to being "enforced" by tooling. This assists those
19 > > doing the work and the QA team to stop people from committing.
20 >
21 > The point is that banning an EAPI doesn't have any noticeable effect.
22 > For example, if you look at EAPI 0 (banned on 2016-01-10) and EAPI 4
23 > (banned on 2018-04-08), there's neither a cusp nor any change of slope
24 > visible for the curves plotted here:
25 > https://www.akhuettel.de/~huettel/plots/eapi.php
26 >
27 > Ulrich
28
29 We have had the issue in the past. Taking 1 minute to vote on a ban of
30 an EAPI in a council meeting is a minute task and enforces the goals of
31 the project.
32
33 Doesn't really matter to me either way.
34
35 Cool data.
36
37 -Aaron

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