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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:55:33
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years by Fabian Groffen
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On 08/05/2011 02:44 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 05-08-2011 14:17:29 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: >> I am still not convinced that a committee of 7 people is flexible >> enough to push radical changes. > > Perhaps I misunderstand you here, but I don't think making radical > changes is good, that's what 7 people balance out. Radical changes > have been made to important parts of Gentoo like e.g. Python, and > this didn't really result in a major improvement, IMO.
My point is how fast and how flexible can a committee like this decide on global project issues
> >> Maybe they are but they need to spend enough time talking about >> things before meetings. Does everyone has the time to spend so many >> hours on mailing lists? See how many discussions end up to >> /dev/null or just forgotten after a while. > > Being a council member means you have to deal with it. I don't > think you get the red button for free, you're supposed to do some > good homework for it. > > When discussions die, probably this is because noone could come up > with a clear enough problem, and directed discussion to come to some > conclusions. Controversial topics of course always have proponents > and opponents, but just deciding to go left or right doesn't > necessarily help to improve the situation. It just makes some happy > and others angry. > >
Right nobody came with a proper solution yet the problems still exists. The same problem will probably pop up again in the future, recycling the previous discussion and go back to sleep again. Someone has to decide and vote for the least worst solution before the problem goes back to hibernation, otherwise you are back to square 0. This is no progress - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOO/YfAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LC12cP/jMQOY+kbkW/crTQB5BkvXyN PJN27oDgEJpmh4CyOt/yixhoPwzmngwPIn3BOWzrsLXS9DWYKC9X1aZnfM7wYKTD cPbd+iE0y9dG7ItDPti81DUh2hocBPanpm/FHjZp9fpBoTrORi7hp9EB0Tw4cIe/ Gfhgo1+4Fgt7PgRpXcuOhJl+jvgBD2BpiapSS1urx2KX5FeVsXXDLotkB2+z47Ez HawKUt7Rc5HDbzMaIjq6vQLqbCkdTIpdmtm8Bku5MEIeYCjEyRSm/+eUdpWO62+K UdWIYa1GyxIxduL+RKIkm2Eg7R5lPqoXlgEp5Pi1hWAX3+/fcyhOecbSIAxG1XJt 5SDFA18s1VF7jk1o03t3v5zZ/pwNz+G8R1ULGVyV64ttxxRiuMhdh6V23A7YxTyE PLlAimtmkoSNb0D3BdzNIj9eaTsTW2oFco5h96GnXQVDHE3rJZFSPoNAhyElC4tj ioXDPkUw8x9Us1r9ZwG70Noj8litSXDAf5Sk1uuBCy9z/629jVBXKp5yBONoYjsS 7JHymvoO8KKL7AubdsT0FysYOUuxE9nakUU2YzPUXFpOmLXyb+bcSBmNqG85rUlL P1TYx0sas3KX1IFqh40C1uk5PMHQOGZqLvNCYUuLG+NZmaDQ9plXWpEnEF2NtDnr TphVM8FcMuiRRhRYAltq =T54Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----