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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Items for Council Agenda, May 14
Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 19:09:42
Message-Id: CAGDaZ_rnjY2H-WzUmZ7jMPLXQw_eJSy9Y_SRURkt=Vv3R7D9Ug@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Items for Council Agenda, May 14 by Roy Bamford
1 On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
2 wrote:
3
4 > On 2017.05.11 08:17, Matthias Maier wrote:
5 > > Hello all,
6 > >
7 > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017, at 12:00 CDT, "Anthony G. Basile"
8 > > <blueness@g.o> wrote:
9 > >
10 > > > Hi everyone,
11 > > >
12 > > > The Gentoo Council will be meeting in two weeks. If anyone has any
13 > > > issues we need to discuss, please let me know and I'll put it on the
14 > > > agenda. Thanks.
15 > >
16 > > I would like to make a last minute proposal.
17 > >
18 > > Proposal:
19 > >
20 > > I ask the council to establish a procedure / team to moderate the
21 > > gentoo-project@ and gentoo-dev@ mailing lists:
22 > >
23 > > - In general the amount of moderation shall as minimal as possible
24 > > (in particular developers and long-time contributors
25 > > unconditionally green-lighted),
26 > > - but for non-developers abusing the mailing lists for their own
27 > > agenda their contributions shall be moderated.
28 > > - Similar to irc operators there shall be a decicated moderator
29 > > team
30 > > to ensure a quick and timely response.
31 > > - The moderator team shall be different from council members, and
32 > > ideally also comrel, such that these groups can act as a check
33 > > and
34 > > balance.
35 > >
36 > > Rationale:
37 > >
38 > > The gentoo-dev@ and gentoo-project@ mailing lists nowadays serve
39 > > an important role for Gentoo development (e.g. mandatory
40 > > announcement,
41 > > RFCs, PATCH reviews). This function is currently severly impeded due
42 > > to the high level of noise and unrelated personal agenda [1].
43 > >
44 > > Best,
45 > > Matthias
46 > >
47 > > [1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/
48 > >
49 >
50 > Team,
51 >
52 > We've been there and done that, lets not do it again.
53 > For those that want the history, read up on the Proctors procject.
54
55
56 I move that we table the actual discussion for the actual meeting. I think
57 at this point we're just gathering topics FOR discussion?
58
59 Should mailing list moderation be added to the agenda or not?
60
61 I may be out of place here but it seems an involved discussion about it
62 would defeat the purpose of having a meeting.
63
64 At the least, wouldn't a change of subject line or list might help keep
65 *this* topic about the meeting itself less cluttered?
66
67 --
68 > Regards,
69 >
70 > Roy Bamford
71 > (Neddyseagoon) a member of
72 > elections
73 > gentoo-ops
74 > forum-mods
75 >

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