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On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:52 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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<wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:45:56 AM EDT Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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>> |
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>> This is called evolution, so I see no problem that Gentoo evolved |
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>> into something different from what was originally planned. |
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> Better worded as a experiment in democratic project leadership I |
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> would say |
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> over all has been a tragic failure. I think the founders of Gentoo |
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> would all |
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> hole heartily agree. |
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The only comment I have right now... |
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What if project leads were generally left in charge to run their |
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projects as they see fit, but the gentoo developer community as a whole |
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reserved the right to recall the lead if they don't like how the |
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project is being managed? |
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This would help with stagnant projects or the like or projects (such as |
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the recent fight between games and council) that aren't responsive to |
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the needs of the gentoo community. |
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I like democracy, but who should the voters be? |
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> While to evolve things mutate to survive. That is about all Gentoo is |
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> doing, |
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> surviving. It is not thriving. It is not a mainstream distro as it |
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> once was. |
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> Leadership keeps a project mainstream no other factors. |
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>> > Gentoo is some what like a 2 headed snake. Long ago used to be 3, |
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>> when |
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>> > infra was stronger but infra has faded some to where it is just |
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>> Council |
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>> > and Foundation. |
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>> This is a separation of power: the legal body is separated from the |
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>> technical government. And I find this really great, since Gentoo is |
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>> an international community these days. |
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> |
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> You simply do not understand. You are asking people to be a legal |
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> representative for something they have no control or influence over. |
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> |
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> Comrel could do something that causes legal action on the Foundation |
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> the |
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> Trustees would have to deal with. Same with regard to the Council. The |
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> foundation can do NOTHING to prevent either. The Foundation has no |
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> control or |
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> influence over Comrel or Recruiting. Yet they oversee the community |
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> it is |
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> legally responsible for. |
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> It is a perverted structure no other projects have such a structure. |
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> Which is |
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> why others rise as Gentoo falls. Go look around. Find any |
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> organization that |
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> has the same structure as Gentoo. I never found anything close. I |
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> doubt |
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> anyone else would either, but I welcome such if it exists. |
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> |
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> -- |
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> William L. Thomson Jr. |
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