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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Tomáš Chvátal <scarabeus@g.o> wrote: |
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> Thats a question, someone could correctly state that appealing mechanism |
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> member should not be involved in the first level resolution. |
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They could state that. There isn't anything "correct" or "incorrect" |
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about that statement as it is a statement of values, not fact. |
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The fact is that if the council is the judge then you don't have |
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anyone to appeal it to. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing |
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is a matter of opinion. I'm of the opinion that it is neither good or |
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bad. If the council doesn't like you they can just appoint an |
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enforcer who will bring charges against you and then uphold them on |
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appeal. If the community can't elect a decent group to govern it from |
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within its ranks, then it is basically doomed no matter what the |
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policies are. |
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> Because this way it can be that you actually complain about decision of a |
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> guy to the same guy. |
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Yup. I agree that this would be a consequence of changing the policy. |
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I think a unitary system of government makes sense for organizations |
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smaller than a few million people, and a unitary government is one in |
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which the topmost authority has absolute authority (though they can be |
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elected, and can be a board). That is how most companies and even how |
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most democracies work (the US being a noteworthy exception). The |
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routine process may be to appeal to your local zoning board before |
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going to parliament, but if for whatever reason your parliament was |
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interested they could tell the zoning board to take a hike before they |
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even make a ruling. In general this doesn't happen because |
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responsible boards don't micro-manage, and I fully support that as |
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well. |
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I'm not a fan of having confused lines of authority where everybody is |
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in charge and as a result things get deadlocked. I'm all for having |
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delegated authority and collaboration, and I don't want the highest |
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authority to step in on every decision. However, I don't think the |
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authority of the council should be limited in any way as it concerns |
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the governance of the non-legal aspects of Gentoo, except that they |
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stand for election. That is their mandate. |
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But, others feel differently, and as I said if the council doesn't |
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object to curtailing their authority, then I'll defer to them. |
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Rich |
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