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On Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:53:24 AM EST Kent Fredric wrote: |
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> On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:12:57 -0500 |
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> "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > Just to point out, part of, why people are interpreting this as they |
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> > > are: you frame it as a requirement, even a "mandatory requirement", |
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> > > without specifying what recourse, if any, there is if such requirements |
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> > > are not met. |
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> > I can understand that perspective. I am more of the mindset of not having |
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> > recourse. I am not a fan of punishment. If projects repeatedly do not do |
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> > it, oh well. That is their choice, just not encouraged. |
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> I think that's possibly what confused me. |
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Yes because the attitude around here is one of punishment rather than |
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encouragement. If someone is misbehaving, punish rather than encourage to |
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behave different. Things are very twisted IMHO. |
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If a project fails to report, punish rather than help. I rather help! |
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> Terms like "Promoted", "Encouraged", "Recommended" are probably closer |
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> to your perspective in that they convey being "Very strong indications that |
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> a thing should be done", instead of "An indication a thing _must_ be done". |
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Yes but then makes it more optional. It is best if people consider it |
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something that must be done. Then others will hopefully help out if not done. |
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> Because indicating _must_ does imply definitive actionable consequences for |
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> non-compliance. |
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My idea of consequences is very different. For example say a project cannot |
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report. The council notices this and inquires with the project. How can we |
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help? Do you need staff? Are you unable to do the report just this month or |
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every? Where can we help? |
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I look at non-compliance as more a friendly thing than malicious. Thus should |
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be friendly in helping to comply. |
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> Where's the others only imply that somebody might bend your arm and give you |
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> a conversation if compliance is not met. |
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Yes because there is a horrible atmosphere and attitude around Gentoo these |
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days. I am not of that mindset or perspective. I never have been. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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