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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Council candidates: Future of the Foundation
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 00:57:49
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr-s-vpXz2-wxiQRkve1ZgLkz3A3nCnpOkTNX_-FMMzYCw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Council candidates: Future of the Foundation by Rich Freeman
1 On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:44 PM Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o>
4 > wrote:
5 > >
6 > > This is one more aspect to this: some companies double donations
7 > > for 501c3 organizations. A friend of mine works in a large
8 > > corporation with HQ is the US and told me that his employer doubles
9 > > any donations made to 501c3, so he made no donation for Gentoo,
10 > > because that will mean loosing money for community which otherwise
11 > > can be doubled. So it is likely that 501c3 will increase incoming
12 > > donations.
13 >
14 > That is a really good point and I'll expand on this.
15 >
16 > Some organizations will only donate money to 501c3 organizations.
17 > Basically they're letting the IRS do the due diligence around whether
18 > the organization is actually charitable. They can potentially also
19 > receive tax benefits this way.
20 >
21 > If you want to receive grants/donations from other 501c3 organizations
22 > you will be far more likely to get them if you are yourself a 501c3
23 > organization. These transactions receive far less scrutiny than
24 > transfers from 501c3s to other types of corporations.
25 >
26
27 This can be problematic for us in some cases.
28
29 Currently our annual revenue is approximately 10,000 (All USD in this
30 example.) If we are a 501c3 public charity, we are required to source 1/3rd
31 of our revenue from the public; and the public is determined by a complex
32 set of rules. Generally this is "donations less than 2% of gross receipts."
33 So e.g. in our current funding model, 2% of 10,000 is 200$; and we need to
34 gross at least 3,333$ in donations < 200$. I can tell you the Gentoo
35 Foundation easily passes this test[0]. However, if we were to be a 501c3
36 and suddenly donations increased, when do we need to start worrying?
37
38 For example; assume gross receipts tripled in the new system, to 30,000$.
39 Now we need 1/3rd of this new total (10,000$) to come from donations less
40 than 600$ (2% of 30,000$). Plugging in our 2019-2020 data, our support
41 level here is not sufficient[1] and we will fail the public support test.
42 Obviously the real numbers would be different but we might want to be
43 careful in terms of how we tell people to donate and how we account for
44 donations[2].
45
46 For example if I donate X and my employer donates X, I assume that counts
47 as 2 donations (not 1) and we can influence the recommended value for X
48 (e.g. we want X to be less than 2% of of expected gross revenues for that
49 year, so it counts toward public support for the majority of donations.)
50
51 The other challenge is that we have no actual plan for spending money.
52 Feedback from the community has not been very positive when I have tried to
53 engage with them on how to spend the money. This presents an ethical
54 problem in terms of raising funds we have no existing need for; the
55 existing public donations from individual contributors already exceed our
56 expenses by a fair margin. I suspect in addition to moving to a tax-exempt
57 non-profit we would need clearer guidance from the community on how to
58 allocate the potential increase in revenue.
59
60 -A
61
62 [0] Non-exhaustively our public support is about 60% using the 2019-2020
63 numbers.
64 [1] This isn't shocking, the new total is 10,000 and we don't always reach
65 10,000 in donation revenue..but I bring it up to demonstrate a concern that
66 a few donors of large amounts can outpace the public support the public
67 charity otherwise needs to operate legally.
68 [2] This example is again meant to be demonstrative; the rules around this
69 are nontrivial and I've simplified quite a bit for mailing list purposes.
70
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72 > --
73 > Rich
74 >
75 >

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