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From: Dan Margolis <krispykringle@g.o>
To: Peter Simons <simons@××××.to>
Cc: gentoo-security@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Trojan for Gentoo, part 2
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:52:31
Message-Id: 418E52B8.4000108@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-security] Re: Trojan for Gentoo, part 2 by Peter Simons
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4 Peter Simons wrote:
5 > Right now, I have to trust the entire network. I don't know
6 > about others, but that's slightly above the level of risk I
7 > am willing to accept.
8
9 Peter is unfortunately right. With unencrypted rsync, we aren't even
10 talking about just trusting mirror admins (who for one thing are
11 probably not quite as seriously vetted as developers with commit access,
12 and for another have been compromised in the past), we're talking about
13 trusting every possible man in the middle. If we were doing rsync over
14 ssh, at least we'd be preventing DNS spoofing leading to fake rsync
15 mirrors giving us fake ebuilds (assuming the ssh private keys of the
16 given mirror were not compromised). And if we were doing GPG signing,
17 we'd be secure against not just that but against rogue mirror admins,
18 compromised infrastructure higher up the chain, and so forth.
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20 Yes, this has the basic assumption that the private key is secure, but
21 all secure systems make a few basic assumptions, so this is hardly
22 unprecedented (we cannot thoroughly prove the security of RSA, and we
23 often can't even come close for symmetric-key systems), but that doesn't
24 mean that they have inherently zero value. I find that sort of argument
25 to be quite flawed, because it's essentially saying, ``Well, nothing is
26 provably secure, so why even have secure systems?''
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29 Dan "KrispyKringle" Margolis
30 Security Coordinator/Audit Project, Gentoo Linux
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Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Trojan for Gentoo, part 2 Andreas Waschbuesch <awaschb@××××.de>