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I am in exactly the same shoes as you. |
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On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:59 AM, Timo Veith wrote: |
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> Am Mittwoch 15 Februar 2006 01:02 schrieb Michael Stewart (vericgar): |
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>> You really should set up a test environment (if you don't have one |
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>> already) and do it there. |
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> Hmm, I've done a upgrade on my personal workstation and it went ok. |
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> So the |
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> issue is not that I haven't done any gcc upgrade, yet. But on my |
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> workstation nobody else is affected if anything goes wrong. I can do |
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> reboots, unmerges or remerges etc. |
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> I am a little concerned about doing it on the production server, |
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> although |
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> I don't know of any problems yet. I just want to be carefull. |
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>> You may also want to consider setting up a build server which will |
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>> compile your packages for your specific setup so all you have to |
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>> do on |
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>> the production server is merge the binary. |
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> Of course in general this is a good thing, but setting up a build |
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> environment for just about five production systems seems to be too |
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> much |
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> overhead to me. The machines we have aren't the same, as far as |
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> architecture is concerned. So I would have to build packages with |
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> different compiler flags. Probably there is a mechanism to solve that |
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> issue, but is it really worth the effort? I would hold the compilation |
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> away from the production system, but I could do it on day times where |
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> only few ressources are needed. Also I can set PORTAGE_NICENESS. |
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I have 6 production servers most with different archs. I feel there |
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is a lot of overhead also. not to mention we are a start up and all |
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of my servers are being used to the fullest. We at this point in time |
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cant afford to have a test server. |
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>> As far as the gcc upgrade, I haven't done it myself. Is there a |
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>> specific reason you need the latest version? If not, then why |
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>> upgrade? |
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I like this approach however, my question is when will we be forced |
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to upgrade. |
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> I have learned that it is not possible to stay at a certain level of |
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> package versions. You need to follow the flow, if you want to install |
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> security updates. I know there are projects that want to take care of |
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> this issue, but I think they aren't ready, yet. So I believe it could |
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> only be a matter of time until you have to upgrade gcc. |
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> Of course I could wait until it comes to that point in time. I am just |
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> curious about what you think about and how you handle this. |
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When this point in time comes.. It is time to shed a tear for me.. I |
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hope by then I get new servers and rotate services with fresh installs. |
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> Timo |
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