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From: Homer Parker <hparker@g.o>
To: gentoo-server@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] SPAM protection by requesting confirmation
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:42:04
Message-Id: 1222630919.7403.24.camel@laptop
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-server] SPAM protection by requesting confirmation by Alex Efros
1 On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 16:21 +0300, Alex Efros wrote:
2 > Hi!
3 >
4 > To everybody in this thread who said "C/R is bad idea":
5 >
6 > While qconfirm and TMDA will work in most cases, I've read C/R critique
7 > here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge-response_spam_filtering and
8 > agree it's bad idea in general. I unlike tools like SpamAssassin because
9 > if there just a "X% chance" something is spam, then it's mean there always
10 > "Y% chance" I'll lose non-spam email. C/R systems have same issues, but
11 > it's harder to find out that fact.
12
13 A properly setup spamassassin doesn't lose mail, it sticks it in a
14 quarantine that you can go through and look for false positives
15 (spamassassin and amavisd-new make it pretty easy).. Never accept mail
16 that doesn't get delivered somewhere.. But, even a properly setup C/R
17 systems adds to the problem by spamming the forged sender with the C/R
18 request.. If you ever get Joe Jobbed with a dictionary attack at a site
19 using C/R you will be busting out some null routes, iptables DROP,
20 filtering in your router, something.. Joe Jobs are bad enough with those
21 that accept and bounce (another no no, see above about accepting mail
22 you're not going to deliver), C/R just adds to it..
23
24 --
25 Homer Parker <hparker@g.o>

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Re: [gentoo-server] SPAM protection by requesting confirmation Alex Efros <powerman@××××××××××××××××××.com>