Re: [gentoo-user] using eclipse with java

On Thu, Apr 17 2014, Jc García wrote:

> 2014-04-17 10:11 GMT-06:00  <gottlieb@×××.edu>:
>> I am a CS prof at NYU, which uses Java for CS 101.  I have taught this
>> course a few times and have learned Java as a result.  During my
>> sabbatical year (a coincidence? :-) )the department decided to teach the
>> eclipse IDE.
>>
>> I have never used an IDE so though i should try now instead of waiting
>> until september.
>>
>> merging eclipse-ecj was painless and sure enough it does seem to compile
>> my programs.  It even noticed that I didn't close a scanner.
>> I can still use javac if desired.  Fine.
>
> I am a CS student, and use eclipse for java projects, and I can say it
> has some nice things to work java.
>
>>
>> I have not yet merged eclipse-sdk.  Must I merge this?  The only version
>> in the main tree is masked and it brings in 83! packages.
>>
>
> The portage version of eclipse is old, I personally prefer to use the
> binary tarball from eclipse.org( It doesn't worth it for me having to
> compile a large old thing)
>
>> Others in the dept (and students) praise the eclipse debugger.  I don't
>> see how I will be invoking it.  Also what about the eclipse editor?
>>
> Well I got used to vim before using java and eclipse, so its editor in
> my opinion sucks(after you have used a real editor), but fortunately
> there is eclim, which lets you use your favorite editor(vim or emacs)
> to code, and have acces to the nice features of eclipse, so it was the
> option for me when coding java. (None of eclim's versions work with
> the portage in-tree eclipse version, so another reason to use the
> binary tarball)
>
>> I guess, I need to be pointed at the right documentation.  I went to
>> wiki.eclipse.org but am not sure where to go to from here.
>>
>> thanks,
>> allan
>>
> I don't really like IDEs nor java, and avoid it most of the time, so i
> don't have much experience with it, but for a gentoo user who has been
> around sometime, I would strongly recomend the combination
> eclipse+eclim+your_editor, it would make you not hate the GUI, and get
> the nice features.

Thank you; that does seem preferable.  Is the binary you refer to the
one in the following message from emerge (I did a --pretend)?

# A more recent source build maintained by the community is available in the
# seden overlay. A more recent binary is available in the java-overlay.

thanks again,
allan