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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:20:37
Message-Id: CAA2qdGV=Sfp=iWir1m76tip=P+qbC-Dk5nyYfx2Yry4MPPvQtA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting. by Alan McKinnon
1 On Sep 20, 2011 3:03 AM, "Alan McKinnon" <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 >
3 > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700
4 > Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info> wrote:
5 >
6 > > > I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all
7 > > > that would be possible.
8 > > >
9 > >
10 > > Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like NetApp or HDS :-)
11 >
12 > I have those options too. But the team that runs the SAN charges and
13 > the rates are not cheap.
14 >
15
16 Yeah, tell me about it.
17
18 The day after we got our first NetApp array, the Finance Director demanded
19 to know how we were going to recoup the cost >.<
20
21 Then the next week, the company got its bacon saved when the production
22 database got corrupted. We quickly mount the previous hour's snapshot, and
23 averted an off day. Suddenly, the NetApp array became the company's most
24 valuable asset.
25
26 (Reading BOFH indeed opened up my team's unlimited resource of creativity
27 ;-) )
28
29 > So far the best external storage our team has ever had is the Dell
30 > M9000 on the ftp server. 15TB raw space, 11TB usable, connected as a
31 > simple DAS, and it's run for years without any issues at all.
32 >
33 > > Heck, OpenFiler is a surprisingly good solution; it's now being used
34 > > in production in my company's subsidiary.
35 >
36 > A colleague is thrilled with OpenFiler, I haven't checked it out myself
37 > yet. I might just try it out on a media server.
38 >
39
40 You should! If you want to play around first, install it as a VM.
41
42 There are some 'gotcha's, not necessarily data-corrupting bugs, but annoying
43 ones like: if the conditions are right, a reboot will fail to remount LVs
44 (simple edit to one of the scripts fixes that). And configuring it to
45 provide iSCSI LUNs is very... involved.
46
47 But once you get the hang of it, everything will be a breeze, just like the
48 ... involved way of installing Gentoo :-)
49
50 As for stability, I have no complaint whatsoever.
51
52 Beside OpenFiler, you might also want to take a look at Nexenta. Similar
53 solution to OpenFiler (i.e., convert a server-full-of-hard-disks into a SAN
54 Storage), but based on OpenSolaris.
55
56 And if you do not need the utmost performance, e.g., just a never-ending
57 NAS, I have heard that QNAP enclosures are the act to follow.
58
59 Rgds,

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