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Am Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 05:46:16PM +0100 schrieb Wols Lists: |
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> > Yea. First the SMR fiasco became public and then there was some other PR |
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> > stunt they did that I can’t remember right now, and I said “I can’t buy WD |
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> > anymore”. But there is no real alternative these days. And CMR drives are |
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> > becoming ever rarer, especially in the 2.5″ realm. Except for one single |
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> > seagate model, there isn’t even a bare SATA drive above 2 TB available on |
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> > the market! Everything above that size is external USB stuff. And those |
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> > disks don’t come with standard SATA connectors anymore, but have the USB |
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> > socket soldered onto their PCB. |
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> Are you talking 2.5" drives here? |
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I meant in general, but – as I said – “especially in the 2.5″ realm”. ;-) |
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For 3.5″, it’s mostly the low-capacity drives that are affected. Probably |
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because here the ratio of fixed cost (case, electronics) vs. per-capacity |
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cost (platters, heads) is higher, so the pressure to reduce manufacturing |
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cost is also higher. High-capacity drives tend to remain CMR at the mo’. |
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> The SMR stunt was a real cock-up as far as raid was concerned - they |
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> moved their WD Red "ideal for raid and NAS" drives over to SMR and |
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> promptly started killing raid arrays left right and centre as people |
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> replaced drives ... you now need Red Pro so the advice for raid is just |
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> "Avoid WD". |
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Red Plus is fine, too. I think the “Plus” is marketing speak for non-SMR. |
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Which is why probably SMRs now have the price tag of old CMRs, and the new |
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CMRs have a “plus” on the price tag. |
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> From what I can make out with Seagate, the old Barracuda line is pretty |
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> much all CMR, they had just started making some of them SMR when the |
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> brown stuff hit the rotating blades. |
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Seagate made a statement that their NAS drives are not and never will be SMR. |
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In case someone is interested, here’s a little experience report: |
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Two days ago, I bought a 2.5″ WD My Passport 4 TB for a new off-site backup |
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strategy I want to implement. They even killed the rubber feet on the |
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underside to save a few cents. >:'-( ) Interestingly, the even cheaper |
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elements series (which is the cheapest because it has no complimentary |
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sofware and no encryption or password feature) still has them. Probably |
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because its case design is older. |
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I just finished transferring my existing Borg backup repos. Right at the |
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beginning, I tested a small repo of 3 GiB and I got good throughput. After |
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around 2 GiB or so the drive went down to 10 MiB/s for a very long time |
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(writing at least another 3 GiB, I have no idea what that was). |
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I was already pondering my options. But once that was over, I’ve since been |
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writing 1,2 TiB to the drive with rsync happily without any glitches, |
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averaging at slightly above 100 MiB/s. I used SMR-friendly ext4 settings and |
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Borg uses datafiles of 500 MiB size, which greatly reduces sprinkled |
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metadata writes b/c it’s only a few thousand files instead of millions. |
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According to smartctl, the drive claims to support Trim, but so far I’ve |
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been unsuccessful to invoke it with fstrim. First I had to enable the |
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allow-discard option in the underlying LUKS container, which is disabled by |
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default for security reasons. But either I’m still missing a detail, or the |
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USB-SATA-bridge really does not support it. Or it does, but the kernel is |
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unaware: yesterday I read an article about enabling a flag for the USB |
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controller via a custom UDEV rule. Who knows. |
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Grüße | Greetings | Qapla’ |
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Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. |
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For a pessimist, the day has 24 bruises. |