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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:13:08
Message-Id: 5300FF41.7050004@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie by Alan McKinnon
1 On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote:
3 >> On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >>> For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
5 >>>
6 >>> 1. sysvinit (status quo)
7 >>> 2. systemd
8 >>> 3. upstart
9 >>> 4. openrc (experimental)
10 >>> 5. One system on Linux, something else on non-linux
11 >>> 6. multiple
12 >>>
13 >>> It should also be noted that no one in the TC voted OpenRC above
14 >>> systemd AND upstart, and that while a couple voted systemd below
15 >>> everything else, it can be argued that it was a tactical vote.
16 >>>
17 >>> Regards.
18 >>>
19 >>> [1]https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/
20 >> I would really, really, REALLY like to see a thorough, civil debate
21 >> involving those far more knowledgeable than I on the pros and cons of
22 >> systemd vs OpenRC...
23 >>
24 >> As it seems to me, the Debian OpenRC page says that the cons are not
25 >> nearly as large as the systemd proponents would have us believe.
26 >>
27 >> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/openrc
28 >
29 > I don't know much about systemd, I do know openrc.
30 >
31 > Thus far, the only real actual benefit I have seen of systemd that is a
32 > real issue that really affects me is consolekit. It's not exactly the
33 > best piece of software out there, comparable to HAL and how it was
34 > replaced by udev. So systemd replaces and fixes consolekit by providing
35 > logind.
36
37 ConsoleKit works just fine for the features it advertises to have, where
38 as HAL never did,
39 so I really don't know what you are referring to?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>