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From: "Bryan Østergaard" <kloeri@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:34:19
Message-Id: 20061218222322.GL21525@woodpecker.gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy? by Grant
1 On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:54:06AM -0800, Grant wrote:
2 > >> I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in
3 > >> popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I
4 > >> personally still love Gentoo.
5 > >
6 > >there are always several phases in the life of a distri.
7 > >
8 > >Beginning, when it becomes 'cool' and a sudden surge in users, some time of
9 > >high popularity, a decline, and at the end, only the users who are
10 > >really 'the right ones' for that kind of distri are left.
11 > >
12 > >So the 'always using the cool thing' users are gone and the 'we are using
13 > >what
14 > >the cool guys were using' crowd is leaving now. So what? Are they
15 > >important?
16 > >No. At some point ubuntu will suffer the same. And then the next cool
17 > >distro
18 > >de jour.
19 > >
20 > >Some decline in user interest is normal - and a healthy process. Because it
21 > >removes the 'I use it because it is cool' and 'I use it because everybody
22 > >else uses it' type of users.
23 >
24 > I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing
25 > for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users. More users must mean
26 > more active developers, and more active developers must mean an
27 > increased rate of growth for the software.
28 >
29 > I believe the great benefit of Gentoo is its flexibility, and
30 > flexibility is like a meta-benefit because it makes possible any other
31 > benefit. What do you think makes Ubuntu the distro of the moment? Is
32 > it ease-of-use? If Gentoo focused more on ease-of-use aspects of the
33 > Ubuntu variety, they would attract more users and thereby increase the
34 > rate of growth for the software.
35 >
36 > Popular migration from one distro to the next sends a very important
37 > signal to any distro that wants to grow.
38 >
39 I don't think our primary goal should be growth (in number of users /
40 developers). In fact I think there's a lot of issues that're much more
41 important to Gentoo.
42
43 Gentoo started with the stated goal of providing a metadistribution.
44 This basically means providing the best possible foundation for others
45 to tinker with any way they like. Be it building embedded applications,
46 making the next 'Ubuntu' or whatever. To me the flexibility that Gentoo
47 provides is one of the most important things.
48
49 Another thing that I think should go before popularity is quality. What
50 good is a distribution if it doesn't work half the time no matter how
51 many users it has?
52
53 In short, staying focused on Gentoos original goals and not getting
54 sidetracked by some meassure of popularity is a very good thing in my
55 opinion.
56
57 And for those who think Gentoo is declining I can only say that's
58 definitely not what I'm seeing as lead of developer relations and
59 recruiters. There's always some developers leaving but we have a lot
60 more developers joining us. In the last 3 years that I've been a Gentoo
61 developer we've grown from ~80 developers to 330+ developers. That's a
62 yearly growth of 60% or more.
63
64 Now, whether those 60% is the right people.. is another matter
65 altogether :)
66
67 Regards,
68 Bryan Østergaard
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