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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: External hard drive and idle activity
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 23:19:23
Message-Id: 2706222.WOqXUbK0CL@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: External hard drive and idle activity by Dale
1 On Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:48:03 GMT Dale wrote:
2 > Ian Zimmerman wrote:
3 > > On 2020-01-01 18:09, Dale wrote:
4 > >> As some may recall, I have a 8TB external SATA hard drive that I do
5 > >> back ups on. Usually, I back up once a day, more often if
6 > >> needed. Usually I turn the power on, mount it, do the back ups,
7 > >> unmount and turn the power back off. Usually it is powered up for 5
8 > >> minutes or so. When I unmount it tho, I sometimes notice it is still
9 > >> doing something. I can feel the mechanism for the heads moving. It has
10 > >> a slight vibration to it. Questions are, what is it doing and should
11 > >> I let it finish before powering it off? I'd assume that once it in
12 > >> unmounted, the copy process is done so the files are safe. I guess it
13 > >> is doing some sort of internal checks or something but I'm not sure.
14 > >
15 > > I have observed the same thing. But in my case, I also disconnect the
16 > > _cable_ from the computer to the enclosure when I am done ... and still
17 > > the drive activity goes on. From that I conclude that it is the drive
18 > > circuitry itself doing some kind of internal housekeeping, and there is
19 > > no point in worrying about it because one would wait forever for it to
20 > > end.
21 >
22 > That's one thing that makes it unnervey. I'll put my hand around to the
23 > back and feel those little bumps. I wait until I think it is done but
24 > just as I'm about to power it off, it bumps again. It's so
25 > unpredictable, I never know if it is done doing its thing or not. Just
26 > like now, it's unmounted, did that during last reply, it hasn't did the
27 > bump thingy while reading your reply or me typing mine in so far. Now
28 > as soon as I reach around to turn it off, it'll likely do the bump thing
29 > again. lol
30
31 I suspect it is now reading your mind! Is this a case of AI?!
32
33 LOL!
34
35
36 > One thing is for sure tho, if you unplug the cable, whatever it is
37 > doing, it's internal. Sort of hard for the puter to be doing something
38 > when it isn't connected. That narrows the options down a lot. That's a
39 > good piece of info there.
40 >
41 > Thanks.
42 >
43 > Dale
44 >
45 > :-) :-)
46
47 In case you missed it in a previous post - have you compiled CONFIG_DM_ZONED
48 in your kernel to see if its performance changes?
49
50 https://zonedstorage.io/linux/config/
51
52 It's behaviour may not change whatsoever, if the drive only has an internal
53 (SMR firmware) data write mechanism. However, if the drive is exposing an I/O
54 API to the OS, then you could well see a difference to how its data storage
55 bumps, spins and shakes as it flushes its journal and goes about its garbage
56 collection process when the Linux kernel 'talks' to it.
57
58 --
59 Regards,
60
61 Mick

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